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    <p>HI All,</p>
    <p>I agree with Maureen as well.  I was a bit concerned about the
      Board's comments on our examples of sample projects and think we
      may want to rethink these.  I also was concerned about their not
      understanding the importance of the preamble on the open internet
      and its importance.  I believe we would greatly benefit from more
      concrete advice from the Board about how we might be able achieve
      the intent of this direction. We did not really discuss this on
      the call</p>
    <p>Cheers,</p>
    <p>Judith<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/8/2018 3:37 PM, Mei Lin Fung
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CACULDXKiJbUncYnxDRvk4g3jNtKde678sCpcYPtWLyz_8G2LDQ@mail.gmail.com">
      <div dir="ltr">I agree with Maureen and would re-inforce that the
        Board's guidance on how our important mission of "an
        interoperable Internet" can be incorporated in the letter
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        <div>In fact, I believe doing this would assist in responding to
          the important point made by Nadira Alaraj - what is the
          motivation for them to help us with their
          guidance/thoughts/information</div>
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        <div>An interoperable Internet is important so that all can
          participate in creating and enjoying the benefits of being
          connected to other people, businesses, employers and increase
          everyone's opportunities for being involved in economic,
          social and leisure activities</div>
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                                        advisor to the Stanford Center
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                                          Economy and Society,</a> World
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                                        for All</a></div>
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                                      Chair, Internet Inclusion, <a
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 7:19 AM, Maureen
          Hilyard <span dir="ltr"><<a
              href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" target="_blank"
              moz-do-not-send="true">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">My 2c following today's call..
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                <p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">The
                  Board letter
                  indicates that they were concerned about how specific
                  our examples were in this
                  initial update to the Board of the group's activities,
                  but as we are
                  now working towards a more ultimate outcome, our next
                  step will no doubt be to look at these examples
                  from a more high level about overall recommendations
                  for potential
                  applications, since we have just been through the
                  comprehensive process of gathering these specific
                  possibilities and discussing their pros and cons.<span> And
                    we have some examples of suggestions that were not
                    considered appropriate. </span></p>
                <p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"
                  lang="en-NZ"> </p>
                <p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">Although
                  it is still
                  the work of the group to provide its own guidelines
                  for the uses of the fund, with
                  reference to the issue of the group's intent to
                  support ICANN's vision of an "interoperable internet",
                  I believe we would greatly benefit
                  from more concrete advice from the Board about how we
                  might be able achieve the
                  intent of this direction, in order to pass on to
                  potential applicants about how they might
                  more appropriately use the funds to support this
                  important ICANN purpose. </p>
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                <p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">Maureen</p>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:46 PM,
                喬敬 <span dir="ltr"><<a
                    href="mailto:chiao@brandma.co" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">chiao@brandma.co</a>></span>
                wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">FYI <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/botterman-burr-to-mann-chiao-31jan18-en.pdf"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.org/en/syste<wbr>m/files/correspondence/botterm<wbr>an-burr-to-mann-chiao-31jan18-<wbr>en.pdf</a>
                    ... in case some of you have not read the response.
                    Thanks! 
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                    <div>Ching </div>
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                        <div class="m_9162912645878876710h5">On Wed, Feb
                          7, 2018 at 2:10 AM, Marika Konings <span
                            dir="ltr"><<a
                              href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">marika.konings@icann.org</a>></span>
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                                    style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear All,</span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    style="font-size:11.0pt">Please find
                                    below the proposed agenda for the
                                    next new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG
                                    meeting which is scheduled for
                                    <u>Thursday 8 February at 14.00 UTC</u>.
                                    Please make sure to review the
                                    attached documents and those linked
                                    below in advance of the meeting.</span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    style="font-size:11.0pt">Best
                                    regards,</span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    style="font-size:11.0pt">Marika</span></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                                      style="font-size:11.0pt">Proposed
                                      Agenda – new gTLD Auction Proceeds
                                      CCWG Meeting – Thursday 8 February
                                      2018</span></b></p>
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                                      style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></b></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                                      style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">As
                                      a reminder, all conference call
                                      details will be circulated on the
                                      “ntfy” (short for “notify”)
                                      mailing list to which members only
                                      are subscribed in a read-only
                                      mode. These details must not be
                                      circulated on the wider public WG
                                      mailing list. To avoid burdening
                                      the WG public mailing list, please
                                      send your apologies ahead of time
                                      (apologies after the call will no
                                      longer be taken into account) and
                                      your dial-out requests to the GNSO
                                      Secretariat: <a
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                                        target="_blank"
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                                          style="color:#954f72">gnso-secs@icann.o<wbr>rg</span></a>
                                      in advance of the meeting..</span></i><span
                                    style="font-size:11.0pt"></span></p>
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                                    <span style="font-size:11.0pt">Roll
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                                    <span style="font-size:11.0pt">Welcome
                                      / DOI & SOI updates</span></li>
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                                    <span style="font-size:11.0pt">Finalization
                                      of letter for external experts
                                      (see latest version attached)</span></li>
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                                    <span style="font-size:11.0pt">Review
                                      of response of Board Liaisons (see
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                                    <span style="font-size:11.0pt">Confirm
                                      next steps & date for next
                                      meeting (Thursday 22 February at
                                      14.00 UTC)</span></li>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
                                        style="font-size:11.0pt">Marika
                                        Konings</span></i></b></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                                      style="font-size:11.0pt">Vice
                                      President, Policy Development
                                      Support – GNSO, Internet
                                      Corporation for Assigned Names and
                                      Numbers (ICANN) </span></i></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                                      style="font-size:11.0pt">Email: <a
href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
                                        <span style="color:#0563c1">marika.konings@icann.org</span></a>  </span></i></p>
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                                      style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></i></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                                      style="font-size:11.0pt">Follow
                                      the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO</span></i></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                                      style="font-size:11.0pt">Find out
                                      more about the GNSO by taking our <a
href="http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                          style="color:#0563c1">interactive
                                          courses</span></a> and
                                      visiting the <a
href="http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-efforts.htm#newcomers"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                          style="color:#0563c1">GNSO
                                          Newcomer pages</span></a>. </span></i></p>
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