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<p class="MsoNormal">Please see the information that has just been circulated by Julie Bisland from the following address for call and login details: Ntfy-ccwg-auctionproceeds.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 07:08<br>
<b>To: </b>Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Notes and action items<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailOriginalBody"><span style="background:#FFF2CC">Stephanie - we're not using Adobe. I resend Julie's invite with the new call-in details few minutes ago. Please check! Erika</span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Stephanie Perrin <</span><a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
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<p><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",sans-serif">How are we connecting to the call today, Adobe or what?</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",sans-serif;color:#888888">Stephanie Perrin</span><span style="color:#888888"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">On 2018-03-27 13:39, Daniel Dardailler wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Hello Marika, all
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as I mentioned during the meeting in PR, I am of the opinion that we have heard enough arguments to now select one option, namely number 1, full in-house ICANN grant department, and revert the logic: try to find and alleviate the reasons not to do it this way.
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I understand that some may think it's too early to come to a conclusion, and I'm not asking for that, just to change our modus operandi and target a particular option.
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In any case, I came to this conclusion after the recent board report and here's my rationales:
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- ICANN needs to control closely all spending, before any disbursement, so at evaluation time if not before (strategic calls) and before final payment
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- ICANN wants the reach to be global and also wants its global community to be in the loop at various levels (orientation, selections, evaluation committees, etc)
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- ICANN wants to minimize the overhead (the granting mgnt overhead plus the executive/legal/oversight overhead if done outside ICANN) and already knows how to account internally for a separate in-house "branch"
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- ICANN wants the new framework to be accountable, transparent, to evaluate the impact, to quantify, etc. All the things that ICANN is already used/pushed to do better and better.
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I don't think we'll find a external foundation that meets all those requirements, and creating a new organization will seriously raise the overhead costs and the risks that it is not considered a temporary framework. The only downside that I can imagine with
option 1 is from people that really really don't want ICANN.org to grow staff-wise, but this will happen in any case even in a mixed option, just to implement a tight oversight (which is not going to be light at all IMO).
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Talk to you on Thursday. <br>
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Thanks. <br>
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On 2018-03-19 15:45, Marika Konings wrote: <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Dear All, <br>
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Please find attached some high-level notes from the new gTLD Auction <br>
Proceeds CCWG meeting that took place on Sunday 11 March at ICANN61. <br>
You are encouraged to review the recording / transcript of the meeting <br>
for the full record (see </span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__61.schedule.icann.org_meetings_647691&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=mosCdjTbbTQRBdP5yPfB4QAtYQXbqjLw1_b0pPU3P8M&s=m3Dldi6OygkbpA67Bqe9FM4iPHdqIkHxIAXF4DNlRME&e=" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">https://61.schedule.icann.org/meetings/647691[61.schedule.icann.org]</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">
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[1]). The next meeting has been scheduled for THURSDAY 29 MARCH AT <br>
14.00 UTC. <br>
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Best regards, <br>
<br>
Marika <br>
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NOTES & ACTION ITEMS – NEW GTLD AUCTION PROCEEDS CCWG MEETING – <br>
SUNDAY 11 MARCH 2018 <br>
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_These high-level notes are designed to help the CCWG navigate through <br>
the content of the call and are not meant as a substitute for the <br>
transcript and/or recording. The MP3, transcript, and chat are <br>
provided separately and are posted on the wiki at: <br>
</span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_DLHDAw&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=mosCdjTbbTQRBdP5yPfB4QAtYQXbqjLw1_b0pPU3P8M&s=uO3XrJeb8rJ4WibJr5aUbVSzjhwlJobf_U47VbQAjjo&e=" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">https://community.icann.org/x/DLHDAw[community.icann.org]</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">
[2]._ <br>
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Brief intro provided concerning background and objective of CCWG (see <br>
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[3]) <br>
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* Working closely together with Board liaison to minimize risk of <br>
rejection of eventual recommendations <br>
* Legal and fiduciary constraints will need to be factored into any <br>
recommendations that the CCWG puts forward <br>
<br>
_Board Liaison Input_ <br>
<br>
Board committed to be proactive but doesn’t want to be proscriptive <br>
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Board discussed today what it would expect to see back. Preliminary <br>
thoughts that Board has, not intended to be proscriptive. Fiduciary <br>
obligations and Board to employ due diligence when it comes to assets <br>
as well as mechanism used to allocate auction proceeds. Preliminary <br>
principles: <br>
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• Tranches in a period of years, not all at once (e.g. 3-4 year <br>
period) to make sure that mechanisms are in place and working <br>
properly. May consider max. amount for which board needs to be get <br>
involved, but not decided yet. <br>
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• Proceeds need to be used in service of the ICANN mission. <br>
‘In service” provides some flexibility, but it is not wide open <br>
either. Not used for operational purposes. <br>
<br>
• Mechanism needs to be efficient and effective. Should <br>
encompass the expertise and scale necessary to minimize overhead and <br>
to maximize the impact. <br>
<br>
• The mechanism has to be capable of acting globally, evaluate <br>
proposals from around the world, and administer and oversee on a <br>
global level. <br>
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• The mechanism needs to be accountable - need to have <br>
disbursement based on written timelines that establish clear <br>
milestones for release and accountability for grant recipients. <br>
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• Mechanism needs to have processes in place to evaluate and <br>
quantify the impact of projects - fit for purpose, impact measurement. <br>
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• ICANN needs to have established processes to evaluate the <br>
mechanism and its effectiveness <br>
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• Mechanism needs to ensure that we can be transparent with the <br>
community and applicants with regards to status of various projects, <br>
evaluation criteria, how funds are used, and these are achieving their <br>
goals. <br>
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Questions: <br>
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* Not for operational purposes used for ICANN, but there will be an <br>
operational cost to disbursing. The latter would come out of the <br>
auction proceeds. <br>
* On the topic of alignment with the ICANN Mission, since the new <br>
bylaws expressly made content and services using domain names, would <br>
projects that e.g. promote content or control of content be considered <br>
against the ICANN mission? See some of the examples that the Board <br>
recently provided. Content control is not within ICANN’s mission so <br>
it would be difficult to see how any project focusing on content would <br>
be in service of the mission. <br>
* Once you know the duration, you may also deduct spending per <br>
project. Many ways to disburse the funds. <br>
* One decision to consider is whether there will be a few substantial <br>
projects funded that make a tangible difference, or whether it will be <br>
potentially hundreds of small projects that might have very local <br>
impact. <br>
<br>
_Exchange of views with experts _ <br>
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* Update provided on the status of outreach to external experts (see <br>
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[3]) <br>
* See input provided by Sam & Xavier. General reflection: some of the <br>
questions may need more specifics in order to provide helpful answers. <br>
ICANN will always have an obligation to exercise its oversight and <br>
respect its fiduciary duties. <br>
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Q & A <br>
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* SEVF mentioned as an example for how auction proceeds could be <br>
invested and give continued returns. Out of scope for CCWG to consider <br>
venture funds, should be moved to bottom of list. <br>
* Coordination should be important feature of any mechanism chosen. <br>
Would appreciate further input on that. Agreement and details on <br>
division of roles & responsibilities is also key. <br>
* Input provided seems to support favoring model #1. Don’t judge <br>
too early - need to make sure that all external input is reviewed and <br>
considered. <br>
* Community involvement / ICANN is important, especially when you <br>
look at allocation of auction proceeds and the need for those to be in <br>
service of the mission. Difficult to see how external evaluations with <br>
no relationship to ICANN would be able to make a definite assessment. <br>
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* To reduce overhead / staff costs, you may need to look into <br>
increasing funds allocated per project. <br>
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_Nominet input _ <br>
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* Nominet trust was set up over 10 years ago to put excess funds to <br>
good use. Appropriate funds on a yearly basis, which resulted in to <br>
tax benefit. Managed independently by a Board of trustees. Nominet did <br>
not sit on the Board of trustees but did provide oversight to ensure <br>
good corporate governance. Leading social tech fund in the UK. Are now <br>
re-evaluation how to deliver public benefit - trust now ready for <br>
attracting external investors. Nominet now takes the public benefit <br>
approach in-house - hiring a team to direct the profits accordingly. <br>
Part of the reason for bringing it in house is because Nominet <br>
purpose, to be able to be more directive how to support Nominet <br>
objectives. Key question is what is the purpose? Could result in <br>
putting it in different posts, for example. What is the ambition? <br>
<br>
Questions: what were the decisions that led to creating the trust and <br>
what guided the decision to spin of the trust and bring the public <br>
benefit work into Nominet? Initially no expertise in-house so trust <br>
was deemed best approach. Now after many years of experience able to <br>
carry out this role in-house and make sure that profits are directed <br>
in line with Nominet’s objective. <br>
<br>
ACTION ITEM: Invite Nominet to join future new gTLD Auction Proceeds <br>
CCWG meeting to provide further insights and allow for additional Q & <br>
A. <br>
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_Next meeting_ <br>
<br>
Next meeting has been scheduled for THURSDAY 29 MARCH AT 14.00 UTC. <br>
The co-chairs expect to share a revised timeline for CCWG <br>
consideration shortly. <br>
<br>
_MARIKA KONINGS_ <br>
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_Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet <br>
Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) _ <br>
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