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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks, Marilyn. We’ll wait to see if there are any further questions raised during today’s call and then get these all back to Sarah for her feedback.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Marika<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@hotmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 11:53<br>
<b>To: </b>Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org>, "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Ext] Re: Proposed agenda - new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting of 12 July at 14.00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">My questions were perhaps not clear -- I thought it was understood that I had questions by raising issues, but let me try again:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">What is the basis that the consultant used to suggest that there is low cost and low start up time for Options 1 and 2? This makes no sense to me -- managing segrated funds is of course not hard for ICANN finance,
but this is simply NOT the real work of managing a grants making activity, or tracking and reporting on grants. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I would like to also hear more about how it would work to have each and every grant reported on the ICANN tax forms, and whether that increases the likelihood of iRS auditing ICANN. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I'd also like to understand whether the ICANN present not for profit status includes such functions, under California law. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Segregating staff; identifying how to create needed firewalls, and accountability mechanisms is not without cost but these were ignored in my view by the consultant.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">"Firing /laying off staff" upon the conclusion of the disbursement of funds can be perhaps taken into account, but I am not sure how -- as ICANN has a pay scale/benefits plan that exceeds what is typical for grant
making organizations, in my experience. So, deciding that ICANN will add staff to bring in expertise, have a time sheet approach to allocate some time from other staff, such as legal, financial, etc. is fairly complex. Would staff brought into ICANN to add
grant making and management/evaluation have to be brought in as contract staff, with time specific contracts? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">How will the IRS review ICANN's status, if the $100++M/or $230M is somehow now brought into ICANN's oversight? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">What is the competency requirement of the Board of ICANN to engage in Grant making/grant review/etc.? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Will making oversight of the grant making/review require a change in the competency of Board members, and does this put the larger mission and core responsibilities at risk? Just a comment that in my experience,
Boards of grant making organizations are selected for a variety of skills, which may include experience in understanding the core mission but also brings in experience in the field of grant making/management/evaluation of outcomes. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">The ICANN Board already speaks to how overworked they are and they are very committed. BUT, there is a set of core responsibilities that the Board has, that does not include grant making. Further, the Board does
not have expertise in grant review and grant making - How did the consultant determine that the Board of ICANN was 'qualified/competent" to engage in reviewing grants, and how did the consultant propose that the process would work for using existing staff,
and Board members? What would the additional time for existing Board members be to take on internal review of grants/review/management? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">How does the consultant perceive to curtail [and I mean curtail] the usual approach of the ICANN community to assume that they can "advocate" about decisions taken within ICANN processes? This is not a conflict
of interest issue but a comment that we have to understand that it is human nature to to seek to influence outcomes of who receives funding. The CCWG should focus on guidance for what kind of projects can receive funding, in my view, but create a process that
is external and not subject to the internal advocacy that will naturally develop. This puts ICANN's integrity, and even perhaps creates repetitional risks. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I have more questions about an internal process, but let's start with those.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Finally, I posted a question raised by a member of the CSG about the need to have grants reviewed for human rights implications. The consultant acknowledged the need to review all applications for IFAC [this is
not a simple task] but did not address how an internal process within ICANN would fulfill this. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I also would like to hear the consultant's perspective about the need to review for human rights implications. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">If this is needed, I will have questions about how an internal process would address this requirement. And, frankly, I don't think having volunteers from the ICANN community will "pass" the red face test with the
IRS. But the retained consultant may have great answers to my questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Marilyn <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 12, 2018 4:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Marilyn Cade; ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ext] Re: Proposed agenda - new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting of 12 July at 14.00 UTC</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Thanks, Marilyn for your input. I looked back at the email you sent prior to ICANN62, but it seemed to raise some concerns not necessarily questions, but I may have missed them? If you could please
resend the questions you have for Sarah, staff can pass these on together with the one below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Marika<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@hotmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 10:01<br>
<b>To: </b>Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org>, "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Ext] Re: Proposed agenda - new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting of 12 July at 14.00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Dear colleagues<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">During the session that the CSG hosted with Xavier, during ICANN62, one of the attorneys raised a question with Xavier and myself regarding the need to review all grants for human rights implications. I haven't
been able to properly research this, but wanted to raise it to staff to ask the retained consultant for more information. This would add significant review criteria to grant proposal reviews. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I am not sure that I have seen answers to the questions that I raised, but I am still reviewing the documents in the attachment. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Looking forward to our call.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Marilyn Cade<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 11, 2018 6:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Proposed agenda - new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting of 12 July at 14.00 UTC
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<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Please find below the proposed agenda for the upcoming meeting of the new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG which is scheduled for Thursday 12 July at 14.00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Marika<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Proposed Agenda – new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting – Thursday 12 July at 14.00 UTC</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Welcome / SOI-DOI Updates<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Recap from CCWG62 related meetings and updates <o:p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Review of proposed responses to charter questions</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext"> (updated version to be shared by staff shortly)
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Final review of summary descriptions provided by Sarah Berg -<span class="xxapple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#333333;background:white">ICANN Contracted Advisor on Strategic Development
and Philanthropic Programs (see attached)</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Feedback on remaining steps and proposed timeline (see attached)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Confirmation of next steps and next meeting (26 July 2018 at 14.00 UTC)<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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