<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Dear All - <div><br></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">In light of the comments concerning this email exchange, I thought it might be worth reminding you of the CCWG discussion on this topic during the Kobe meeting in which we noted that:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">“<span style="color:black">Evaluators may need to differentiate between what it is in the regular operational budget and what has been funded on a more exceptional basis, but this will be a determination that needs to be made by the evaluators in line with the legal and fiduciary requirements”.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Similarly, the ICANN Board provided input on this topic in its most recent letter (see <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/V7XRAw" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/V7XRAw</a>) noting that:<u></u><u></u></span></p><span class="gmail-im" style=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.25in"><i style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#000000">2. Regarding ICANN SO/ACs:<u></u><u></u></font></i></p><ol start="1" type="a" style="margin-bottom:0in"><li class="gmail-m_-5011746859226854342gmail-m-60761715028717793msolistparagraph" style="margin-left:0.25in;margin-right:0in;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><i style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#000000">SO/AC structures that are not legal entities in their own right, independent of the multi-stakeholder ICANN structure, would be unable to apply for proceeds as they likely do not meet due diligence requirements as identified in the initial legal and fiduciary concerns memo.<u></u><u></u></font></i></li></ol><ol start="2" type="a" style="margin-bottom:0in"><li class="gmail-m_-5011746859226854342gmail-m-60761715028717793msolistparagraph" style="margin-left:0.25in;margin-right:0in;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><i style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#000000">This would not preclude consideration of applications from participants in an SO/AC structure that are also established legal entities outside the multistakeholder model provided:<u></u><u></u></font></i></li></ol><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.75in"><i style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#000000">I. The request does not include an activity or project that is or should be covered by ICANN’s operational budget;<u></u><u></u></font></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.75in"><i style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#000000">II. Conflict of interest considerations are met, including but not limited to ensuring that those applying are not part of the evaluation process; and<u></u><u></u></font></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.75in"><i style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#000000">III. All other application criteria are met.</font></i><font color="#500050"><u></u><u></u></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.75in"><i style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#000000"><br></font></i></p></span><p class="MsoNormal">As such, I would like to remind the small team of the action item coming out of Kobe which was to r<span style="color:black">eview the example list as well as guidelines and consider whether additional language should be added to reflect this notion that </span>“<span style="color:black">Evaluators may need to differentiate between what it is in the regular operational budget and what has been funded on a more exceptional basis, but this will be a determination that needs to be made by the evaluators in line with the legal and fiduciary requirements” which are also referenced in the Board input.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thank you for all the work and I'm looking forward to our discussion on Wednesday! </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000">Erika</font></p><div class="gmail-yj6qo gmail-ajU" style="outline:none;padding:10px 0px;width:22px;margin:2px 0px 0px"><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 8:10 PM Daniel Dardailler <<a href="mailto:daniel.dardailler@gmail.com">daniel.dardailler@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">IMO, it doesn't matter much if ICANN has funded an initiative in the past, or even is currently funding a given initiative. The arbitrary label (and its wide corevage of a given technical field), given to the initiative at one point in time, for instance UA, shouldn't preclude some projects to be funded in this area.<div><br><div>What matters (in addition to being in service of ICANN mission, but we can assume this is the case since we're talking about something ICANN has or is already funding) is that:</div><div> - the existing initiative doesn't cover any ICANN operational costs (that is, staff salary, meetings, etc) but something that is already an outside measure of some sort, e.g. grants going to external parties, or their mgnt done by third-parties.</div><div><br></div><div>- there is no double spending of any kind (this would just be illegal)</div><div><br></div><div>So if tomorrow, the team in charge of disbursing the existing ICANN UA grants (some hundreds of K) wants to apply with the Auctions benefits grant agency (for some millions, and a much bigger project maybe), I don't see why they should be prevented to do it.</div><div><br></div><div><div>I think we need a clearer definition of what's in the ICANN operational budget and what's not in it (but is still something paid by ICANN, maybe on a non-regular time basis, and for reasons identified as new issues that need external actions). </div><div><br></div><div>For instance, the ICANN UA program funding is a reaction to the unforeseen difficulties user agents (e.g. browsers, mailers) have with sending non-ascii strings to DNS resolvers. It requires more that just internal ICANN committee work, and it will hopefully stop being relevant when all the relevant specs and software are fixed.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> <br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 3:32 PM Marilyn Cade <<a href="mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com" target="_blank">marilynscade@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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I do have some suggestions that do not need to replace the "example" list but augment it</div>
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I propose a short discussion on the following as one of the small group drafters:</div>
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Example: ICANN has cut short funding for CROP, which is a program available to each constituency/SG, that used to have up to five annually, with 1 -2 out of region, to do awareness/recruitment. It is now only 3, and in region.</div>
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My suggestion is that funding applications from constituencies/SGs/SO/ACs that are similar in purpose should be accepted if they meet the "consistent with ICANN's core mission and activities" criteria. </div>
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Rationale:</div>
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Building awareness and recruitment into engagement at ICANN takes many forms, and the Fellowship Program is not really. an effective modality for the BC, or the contracted parties, as analysis of that program shows, even as it brings different value. Bringing
a speaker with expertise to a national or sub regional event that can explain ICANN from the "community" perspective brings significant value. Proposals could be limited in number and limited to $5,000 per event. </div>
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Example: ICANN has cut and limited community funding for bringing together community groups at external IG events such as Internet Governance Forum; RIR events; IEEE and IETF events -- all of which build engagement. Events that are domain registry/registrar
focused are assumed not to need funding but in reality, to build the DNS business in developing countries and LDCs, some travel sponsorships for qualified and committed participants could spark more DNS suppliers back at the national and sub regional levels. </div>
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Applications for engagement in a wide number of events -- ranging from IGF, to national and sub regional IGFs, to technical events, to specially focused DNS business development events with rationale for benefit and contribution to the ICANN mission and core
principles should be accepted</div>
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Note: Although ICANN Org Engagement seems to have pretty unlimited funding for their staff and for Board members to travel, without much transparency, programs that support the community continue to be cut.</div>
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Example: Community engagement in standards entities -- ranging from WWW, to IETF, to IEEE to new approaches, such as Moz:lla's work on Ethics in AI</div>
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Proposals that support engagement and even hosting of events that broaden and deepen engagement are great examples that could be supported</div>
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Example: Scholars focused on research that advance technical areas that affect ICANN's mission and core activities. </div>
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This would require advice from SSAC and other experts, including from IAB/IETF, WWW; IEEE, and more but could provide a category that applications could be submitted</div>
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Example: National and sub regional activities that affect the Internet and ICANN's core mission</div>
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This is already addressed, I think. but just want to reinforce it as a core priority</div>
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Example: Advancing how Youth and Children can benefit from the Internet </div>
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I am not going to elaborate much on this but it could be access projects that connect the unconnected; it could e about bringing in youth voices to ICANN or other IG events that ICANN participates in, such as the national IGFs.</div>
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Example: Engaging elected and appointed policy makers -- advancing awareness </div>
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Increasingly, elected and appointed policy makers are asking how to regulate the Internet and this affects ICANN's role. Examples like the Internet Congressional Caucus and a similar initiative in Europe have brought parliamentarians forward as champions of
the Internet and ICANN. Proposals from a national level to engage with Parliamentarians and key Ministries at the national level to advance endorsement of ICANN's role should be accepted. </div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 8, 2019 2:35 AM<br>
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<div class="gmail-m_1356321100132303609gmail-m_5293877307900607665PlainText">On 07-04-19 23:03, John R Levine wrote:<br>
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I agree 100% with John.<br>
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> UASG always ends the year with unspent money. It doesn't need any more,<br>
> and I hope it goes without saying that auction proceeds shouldn't replace<br>
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> I think the example list is fine and would prefer to accept it and move<br>
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> R's,<br>
> John<br>
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