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At 25/07/2019 11:25 PM, Judith Hellerstein wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Hi Elliot <br>
Mechanism A is an internal icann department hired to do the evaluation and choosing of grants</blockquote>
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Judith, that is NOT the case. Mechanism A will require that the actual review of applications and the decision of what to fund will be done by an external group with NO decision authority or control being held by ICANN employees. The Board has made it very
clear that it does not want ICANN employees making such decisions, REGARDLESS of the model chosen.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">As such icann staff will be reviewing all grant applications and choosing the winners. This is why I said, to me it is clear, that this mechanism has the least independence and in my mind does not meet the requirements
set up by the board.<br>
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If icann outsourced the reviewing and selection of the grantees it us not clear to me what the difference of the mechanisms us to me.</blockquote>
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The difference is that a foundation will cost a lot more and is far more complex to manage.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">With mechanism b, this choice of reviewing and selecting the grant winners will be done by the donor advisory fund. This is and independent group where icann has no ability to influence
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Mechanism B is a variant of A because with A, ICANN *MUST* outsource the selection process and *MAY* outsource other aspects if it is more prudent than developing specific expertise in-house.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Mechanism C is an icann foundation. Again an independent group reviews and select the grantees
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That is not implicit in having a foundation. Although the details are different, I will use PTI as an example. PTI is an independent corporation "affiliated" with ICANN. PTI outsources some of its work to ICANN (such as accounting, payroll, parts of IT). So
ICANN employees are doing part of PTI work. PTI is controlled by the PTI Board, but ICANN appoints 3/5 Board members giving it effective control over most aspects of PTI.<br>
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So a new foundation still *COULD* have ICANN employees doing the selection.<br>
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But since we have set an unalterable rule saying that ICANN employees cannot be allowed to do this, the foundation could not use ICANN employees to do the selection. Just as that same rule prevents the ICANN department in Mech A from using ICANN employees.<br>
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Alan<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Hope this answers your questions <br>
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Best <br>
Judith <br>
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On Jul 25, 2019, at 7:51 AM, Elliot Noss <<a href="mailto:enoss@tucows.com">enoss@tucows.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Hi Judith,<br>
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You say " It seems clear to me that Mechanism A would not meet the independent requirements set up by the ICANN Boardâ€. This is not clear to me. Please explain. Thanks.<br>
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EN<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">On Jul 24, 2019, at 11:02 PM, Judith Hellerstein <<a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com">judith@jhellerstein.com</a> > wrote:<br>
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As per Emily's request, I am forwarding my comments to the entire list. I had previously sent them just to Staff and the Co-Chairs<br>
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Best,<br>
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Judith<br>
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Subject: Re: [Ext] My comments on the Auction Proceeds Draft <br>
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:53:06 +0000 <br>
From: Emily Barabas <a href="mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org"><emily.barabas@icann.org></a>
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To: <a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com">judith@jhellerstein.com</a> <a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com">
<judith@jhellerstein.com></a>, Marika Konings <a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">
<marika.konings@icann.org></a>, <a href="mailto:erika@erikamann.com">erika@erikamann.com</a>
<a href="mailto:erika@erikamann.com"><erika@erikamann.com></a>, Joke Braeken <a href="mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org">
<joke.braeken@icann.org></a> , <a href="mailto:ching.chiao@gmail.com">ching.chiao@gmail.com</a>
<a href="mailto:ching.chiao@gmail.com"><ching.chiao@gmail.com></a> <br>
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Hi Judith,<br>
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Would you mind sending your feedback to the CCWG mailing list, or if you would like staff can do so on your behalf? Just let us know which you prefer.<br>
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Kind regards,<br>
Emily<br>
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On 24/07/2019, 20:45, "Judith Hellerstein" <a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com">
<judith@jhellerstein.com></a> wrote:<br>
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HI Marika and Emily,<br>
I am attaching my comments on the auction proceeds draft document. It seems clear to me that Mechanism A would not meet the independent requirements set up by the ICANN Board but do not see this referenced in the report. Perhaps I am misunderstanding some things.
I have also added comments about Mechanism B and C as well as other issues<br>
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Earlier today, I have also added comments to the google doc you posted today on the list serv<br>
Thanks for extending the deadline to Friday. Look forward to the call on Wednesday<br>
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Best,<br>
Judith<br>
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