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<p>For me it is too early to know which direction this will go but I
would like to add my thoughts, and experience, with regard to the
work of evaluating proposals. There are three really difficult
tasks involved. <br>
</p>
<p>The first, in which many can participate, it getting the Terms of
Reference correct so that applicants know (a) the range of
acceptable proposals, and (b) the proper format in which the
proposal must be submitted. [<i>Comment: I have seen proposals
with lots of "Advisory Committee", and "Photo next to Notable"
content, but little budget information..built on hope I guess].
</i>Such proposals are easy to discard but do flag the point that
the TOR and Format are not just requirements, but are also
learning materials for those new to the grant seeking process. <i>Some
funds might be devoted to a learning process for prospective
applicants.</i></p>
<p>The second difficulty is that evaluation is a lot of work, a real
lot of work, with fixed timelines. The evaluation team has to be
well versed in evaluation, and able to put in intense work under
time and decision making pressures. At one level this is obvious,
but it is worth reminding us about this as we choose the path
forward here. <br>
</p>
<p>The third difficulty is that the less experienced the evaluators
are the more they are tempted to stretch the terms of reference to
award points to potentially attractive projects that receive poor
marks on some aspects of an evaluation points checklist. This can
be kept in check but usually at the expense of time and effort at
a time when evaluators are under intense work/time deadlines.
Evaluation has to be based on the information in the proposal,
with due diligence as required. A promising proposal that falls
short may call for some mentoring and future submission. <br>
</p>
<p>Each of these points may be obvious, but they do need to be kept
in mind as we chart a path forward here.</p>
<p>Sam L. NPOC<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/6/2019 1:16 AM, Maureen Hilyard
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Elliot
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<div>I think that in the discussion we had, Alan felt that a
third party might be more appropriate for the independent
panel because volunteers such as those who volunteered for
the AP CCWG work for example have demonstrated a tendency to
be unreliable as to their stickability to their original
purpose on the CCWG and thus he does not believe that
volunteers could sustain any real commitment for the load of
selection work that would be required. This was refuted by
others of us. But it could have been the reason for the "third
party" being raised in the meeting notes. </div>
<div><br>
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<div>Our discussion also touched on the fact that external
experts, who know little about ICANN's mission and what the
CCWG had decided might be suitable projects, would be paid,
but community volunteers who would have to fit this work
around their daily lives and day jobs that for many are
non-ICANN-related, would not be paid. This is my
recollection. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>M</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 2:54 PM
Elliot Noss <<a href="mailto:enoss@tucows.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">enoss@tucows.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Hi Emily,
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<div>Thank you for this.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Both transcripts match my recollection and back up the
point I have made that the belief was that a group from
the community and not ICANN Org or otherwise would be
making the decisions.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am not clear where it was decided that it would be
some third party, nor do I remember any substantive
discussion about what sort of third party could be
considered for this. I am not inviting that discussion
now, but rather am saying I do not recall it taking place.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Again, thanks.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>EN<br>
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<div>On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Emily Barabas <<a
href="mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">emily.barabas@icann.org</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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Erika and Elliot,</div>
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<div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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the staff side, it is our recollection that the
language included in the current draft of the
Final Report comes out of the meeting held on 10
April 2019, in which public comments on this
topic were discussed (see public comment review
template for comments in relation to charter
question #3:<span
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href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138829/Charter%20Question%20%233%20Review%20Template%20-%20updated%205%20April%202019.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1554470220000&api=v2"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138829/Charter%20Question%20%233%20Review%20Template%20-%20updated%205%20April%202019.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1554470220000&api=v2</a><span
class="gmail-m_-8723030305861631327Apple-converted-space"> </span>).
Notes and recordings from that meeting are
available at: <a
href="https://community.icann.org/x/rxZIBg"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/x/rxZIBg</a>.
The transcript is here:<span
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href="https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/policy/2019/transcript/transcript-new-gtld-auction-proceeds-10apr19-en.pdf"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/policy/2019/transcript/transcript-new-gtld-auction-proceeds-10apr19-en.pdf</a>.</div>
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<div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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action coming out of that discussion is further
elaborated in CCWG agreement #18 here:<a
href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138829/new%20gTLD%20AP%20CCWG%20Agreements%20-%20updated%206%20June%202019.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1560325341000&api=v2"
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138829/new%20gTLD%20AP%20CCWG%20Agreements%20-%20updated%206%20June%202019.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1560325341000&api=v2</a>,
which resulted in the following text in the
draft Final Report:<span
class="gmail-m_-8723030305861631327Apple-converted-space"> </span><span>“<span
style="background-color:white">Regardless of
which mechanism is chosen, an independent
evaluation panel would be established and
responsible for the review and evaluation of
applications. Neither the Board nor staff
will be taking decisions on individual
applications but will instead focus its
consideration of the slate on whether the
rules of the process were followed by the
independent panel. However, due care will
need to be given during the implementation
phase that safeguards are in place to ensure
the independence of the members of the
independent evaluation panel.”</span></span></div>
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<div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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regards,</div>
<div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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style="font-size:12pt">From:<span
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style="font-size:12pt">Erika Mann <<a
href="mailto:erika@erikamann.com"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">erika@erikamann.com</a>><br>
<b>Date:<span
class="gmail-m_-8723030305861631327Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Monday,
5 August 2019 at 17:38<br>
<b>To:<span
class="gmail-m_-8723030305861631327Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Elliot
Noss <<a href="mailto:enoss@tucows.com"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">enoss@tucows.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:<span
class="gmail-m_-8723030305861631327Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Emily
Barabas <<a
href="mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">emily.barabas@icann.org</a>>,
Ccwg-auctionproceeds <<a
href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:<span
class="gmail-m_-8723030305861631327Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>[Ext]
Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] notes and action
items from the CCWG Auction Proceeds meeting
on Wed, 31 July 2019 (14 UTC).</span></div>
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<div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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assume that this can be done Elliot. I will
check with Marika, Emily and Joke to see how
this this can be done. </div>
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<div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 5:34 PM Elliot Noss <<a
href="mailto:enoss@tucows.com"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">enoss@tucows.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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clarity, I wasn’t questioning the meaning
but rather correcting the record.
Apologies if this came out otherwise.</div>
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would be very interested in transcripts
of discussions where this was moved on
from if it is not too much trouble.
Thanks.</div>
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Aug 5, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Erika
Mann <<a
href="mailto:erika@erikamann.com"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">erika@erikamann.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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style="font-size:13.5pt">Elliot
- well, you have been absent
too during rounds of
discussions and we moved on.
In all fairness, we're
re-engaging with his topic
because you requested it and
we're doing it therefore.
Let's focus on the future and
let's try to solve the
remaining issues and let's not
start to question the meaning
behind individual sentences.</span></div>
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style="font-size:13.5pt">Thank
you, </span></div>
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style="font-size:13.5pt">Erika</span></div>
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<div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 5:11 PM
Elliot Noss <<a
href="mailto:enoss@tucows.com"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">enoss@tucows.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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STRONGLY reject this being
presented as “recent”:<span
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<div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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recent CCWG discussions,
some members have
advocated…..”.</div>
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<div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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clear and unequivocal in
my view on this since
the CCWG first met. Most
often, most participants
were supportive of this
when raised. Vocally and
regularly.</div>
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<div style="margin:0cm
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times this has been
taking off the table
when documents are
prepared and then
presented as new when
I re-raise it. This
has now happened too
many times for me to
be comfortable. To me,
this has been in front
of the ICANN board
members of the CCWG
for nearly two years
with no pushback. This
is the obvious model.
It is the one used by
CIRA and SIDN and
Nominet. It is used by
Nominet, iirc, after
they tried third
parties and moved away
from them. We have
heard this presented
by their experts. A
long time ago. With us
asking questions over
multiple sessions.</div>
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would like to be
clearly on the record.
This has always been
on the table. It has
always been supported
by most voices in the
CCWG and some people
are uncomfortable with
it. I respect that.</div>
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<div style="margin:0cm
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method for resolving
this point need be
established. We could
have had straw man
polls that would have
determined it many
times already. It
should have been
settled over a year
ago. It seems to me
that the process is
looking for a means of
killing it by
excluding it from
documents and looking
for technicalities
(the board won’t allow
it). Let’s have a
straightforward
discussion on this
point and settle it.</div>
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<div style="margin:0cm
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in this case is
independence from
submissions asking for
money. That is simply
not a high bar.</div>
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<div style="margin:0cm
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I am a bit crusty this
morning after going
through another round
of “you support
nazis……” with the
recent 8 chan nonsense
so apologies if the
above is harsh)</div>
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Aug 5, 2019, at
10:32 AM, Emily
Barabas <<a
href="mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">emily.barabas@icann.org</a>>
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all,<span
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<div
style="margin:0cm
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a follow-up to
action item 1
from the call
on 31 July,
the following
question has
been sent on
behalf of the
CCWG to the
ICANN Board
for
consideration:<span
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</div>
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<div
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recent CCWG
discussions,
some members
have advocated
for a model in
which a panel
of ICANN
community
members
evaluates
funding
applications
and selects
recipients for
funding. From
the
perspective of
these members,
it is possible
for a panel to
be comprised
of ICANN
community
members and
also be
completely
independent.
This continues
to be a topic
that the CCWG
is considering
with different
members
expressing
different
views. Is the
ICANN Board
willing to
consider the
possibility of
a panel
comprised of
community
members,
taking into
consideration
legal and
fiduciary
responsibilities
and conflict
of interest
requirements?<span
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regards,<span
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<b>Date:<span
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31 July 2019
at 18:49<br>
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<b>Subject:<span
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notes and
action items
from the CCWG
Auction
Proceeds
meeting on
Wed, 31 July
2019 (14 UTC).</span></div>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Please find included
below the
notes and
action items
from the CCWG
Auction
Proceeds
meeting on
Wed, 31 July
2019 (14 UTC).</span></div>
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<div
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Joke Braeken</span></div>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;background-color:white">These
high-level
notes are
designed to
help the CCWG
navigate
through the
content of the
call and are
not meant as a
substitute for
the transcript
and/or
recording. The
MP3,
transcript,
and chat are
provided
separately and
are posted on
the wiki at:</span><span
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica"><a
href="https://community.icann.org/display/CWGONGAP/2019+Meetings"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:rgb(149,79,114)">https://community.icann.org/display/CWGONGAP/2019+Meetings</span></a><span
style="background-color:white">.</span></span></div>
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style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;background-color:white">ACTION
ITEMS</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica"></span></div>
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type="disc">
<li
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style="margin:0cm 0cm
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style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-left:36pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Leadership team to
formulate - as
soon as
possible - a
question to
the Board,
asking whether
the Board
could consider
a situation
where the
evaluation
would be done
by community
members, and
potentially
outside
efforts</span></p>
<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<li
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style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline"><b>#2:<span
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style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-left:36pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Small group to be set up,
to clarify the
criteria for
independence.
Stepped
forward:
Marylin Cade,
Maureen
Hilyard, Vanda
Scartezini,
Ching Chiao,
Thato Mfikwe,
Alan
Greenberg,
Jonathan
Robinson,
Elliot Noss</span></p>
<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<li
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style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline"><b>#3:<span
class="gmail-m_-8723030305861631327gmail-m-8642028062264572387gmail-m-5630808288012805apple-converted-space"> </span></b><span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-left:36pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Erika and Alan to look
into the
question
whether we can
strengthen the
role of the
community
further,
beyond whether
what Alan and
Erika
originally
envisaged, and
based on the
feedback
received
during the
public comment
period.</span></p>
<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline"><b>#4:<span
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style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-left:36pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">clarifications to be
provided to
ICANN Board
liaisons</span></p>
<ul
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type="disc">
<ul
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type="circle">
<li
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style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">Alan
and Erika to
clean up the
current
text. See
action item
#3.<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">Leadership
team with
support from
staff will
review the
accountability
/ review
mechanisms,
incl. audit.
See how they
overlap with
the proposal,
if at all<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
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type="disc">
<li
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</ul>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-left:36pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">CCWG members are
encouraged to
review Sam’s
memo ahead of
the next
meeting.</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<li
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style="margin:0cm 0cm
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style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-left:36pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Sam will revise the memo
about the
individual
appeal. Alan,
possibly other
community
members will
weigh in over
email
regarding
Sam’s proposal</span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;background-color:white">NOTES</span></b><span
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<ol
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type="1"
start="1">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:12pt 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline"><b>Welcome/Agenda
Review/SOI
Updates</b><span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ol>
<p
style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;background-color:white">No
roll call.
Attendance
will be taken
from the zoom
room. Please
remember to
mute your
microphones
when not
speaking and
state your
name before
speaking for
transcription
purposes.</span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica"></span></p>
<p
style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">2.</span><span
style="font-size:7pt;font-family:"Times
New
Roman",serif"> <span
class="gmail-m_-8723030305861631327gmail-m-8642028062264572387gmail-m-5630808288012805apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Next Steps Regarding
Selection of
Recommended
Mechanism(s)</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica"></span></p>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">4 mechanisms were
created:
looking at
various
scenarios that
are already
available, and
pick the
best. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">A: inhouse model</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">B: inhouse + other entity</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">C: foundation</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">D: fund outsourced to
other entity</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">D was ruled out, C was
favoured less.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Public comment: quite a
few comments
favoured C.
Different
concerns
raised about
independence. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Erika favours to
recommend only
1 single
mechanism, and
to make a
recommendation
to the board.
Alternatively,
we could make
a hierarchy
and present it
to the Board.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Once a decision about the
mechanism was
taken, the
next group
needs to do
the work on
how this shall
function. To
help them, we
have
established
guidelines:
They formulate
some
principles.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">You can find the graphics
here:<span
class="gmail-m_-8723030305861631327gmail-m-8642028062264572387gmail-m-5630808288012805apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="https://community.icann.org/display/CWGONGAP/Graphics"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">https://community.icann.org/display/CWGONGAP/Graphics</span></a> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"MS Gothic"">
</span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">And the summary of inputs
from ICANN
Board and Org
are here:<span
class="gmail-m_-8723030305861631327gmail-m-8642028062264572387gmail-m-5630808288012805apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="https://community.icann.org/display/CWGONGAP/FAQs"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">https://community.icann.org/display/CWGONGAP/FAQs</span></a> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Emily runs through the
e-mail sent by
Joke to the
list, on
behalf of the
co-chairs.
Summary of the
main topics:</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline"><i>Independence</i><span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-left:36pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Topic discussed a lot in
the past, and
also the Board
and ICANN Org
provided
input. </span></p>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-left:36pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">See Q&A, 2 graphics
as shared in
Marrakech
(division
responsibilities
& common
characteristics)</span></p>
<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline"><i>Role
independent
panel? who
would sit on
this panel?</i><span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-left:36pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">ICANN Board spoke already
about this.
Info included
in the FAQ,
and recent
email
exchanges from
Board Liaisons
to the group</span></p>
<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline"><i>Relevant
costs linked
to
implementing
the mechanisms</i><span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-left:36pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">See email sent to ICANN
org</span></p>
<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline"><i>Mechanism
D and
differences
with B</i><span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-left:36pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Mechanism D was taken off
the table.
Leadership
team does not
want to
re-open the
discussion</span></p>
<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">Role
of the ICANN
community<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-left:36pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">As part of the agenda for
today.
Proposal by
Alan and Erika</span></p>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Alan:</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Focusing too much on the
names of the
mechanisms,
instead of on
the substance,
on the
characteristics. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">If we have a foundation,
what are the
criteria to
make sure it
is indeed
independent? </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Elliot:</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Critical comments on the
view of the
CCWG. they
assumed ICANN
org to take
the decisions.
However,
Independent
panel composed
by the
community.
Seems there is
strong
consensus with
the CCWG for
mechanism A
where the
independent
panel is ICANN
community.
That would
require a
level of
independence
both
operationally,
and in terms
of COI
(similar to
NomCom).
Suggests to
focus on that
view.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Judith:</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">If we outsource, and take
into account
what the Board
has said,
there is not
much
difference
between A and
B</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Becky:</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">No follow-up
conversations
happened so
far with the
rest of the
Board.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Independence issue: the
Board finds it
absolutely
critical that
the panel that
evaluates and
selects
winners and
losers must be
completely
independent.
Indepent of
ICANN org, the
Board, and the
vested
interests in
the community
itself. Board
has fiduciary
obligations
and needs to
ensure ICANN
stays within
its mission.
Administrative
tasks for
ICANN Board.
Community has
a big role in
talking about
the
priorities,
the training
for the
independent
panel etc. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Jonathan:</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Conflict between Becky
and Elliot his
view?</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Elliot thinks what Becky
says is
correct. It
does not
contradict his
view of
community
involvement. A
community
group is
scoring and
choosing
proposals.
There should
be no COI with
those
proposals.
Principles of
independence
should apply.
As an example:
how NomCom
deals with
conflicts.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Members of the community
group can help
promote, but
step out as
soon as there
is a COI.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Becky:</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">NomCom is not
independent,
in the sense
that its
members are
drawn from the
various parts
of the
community,
including
people who are
very active in
ICANN
processes, and
have vested
interests in
outcomes</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Erika:</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Community is stretched
thin. High
workload.
Either the
community is
the evaluator,
or the
community has
an oversight
function.
Latter is more
appropriate in
Erika’s view. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Becky:</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">The Board sees a very
important role
for the
community.
However, icann
community
members in the
selection and
evaluation
panel makes
independence
extremely
difficult to
achieve. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Role of the community is
critical, in
an advisory
Board. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Alan:</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Evaluation the
applications
should be done
by
professionals.
Concerns
relying on a
volunteer
force.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Summary by Erika:</span></div>
</div>
<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">Evaluation
by community
members, and
potentially
outside
efforts: is
the Board
going to even
consider this
option? If
not, it is
clear what we
need to do.<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">Bigger
role of the
community
(Alan was
working on a
proposal) Can
we strengthen
the model of
the current
advisory panel
and the
overall role
of the
community. <span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">We
need to review
the criteria
of what we
refer to as
independence.
To be included
in the
guidelines.
E.g. PTI
Board, is not
completely
independent.
Whatever Board
will be
constructed (A
and C), the
role of the
completely
independent
Board members
will be higher
than the role
of potential
ICANN Board
members who
sit on this
Board too.<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Action items:</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">#1:
Evaluation by
community
members, and
potentially
outside
efforts: is
the Board
going to even
consider this
option?
Leadership
team to
formulate a
question to
the Board,
asap.<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">#2:
Small group to
be set up, to
clarify the
criteria for
independence.<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">#3:
Question
whether we can
strengthen the
role of the
community
further,
beyond whether
what Alan and
erika
envisages, and
based on the
feedback
received
during the
public comment
period.<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<p
style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">2.</span><span
style="font-size:7pt;font-family:"Times
New
Roman",serif"> <span
class="gmail-m_-8723030305861631327gmail-m-8642028062264572387gmail-m-5630808288012805apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Proposal – Role of the
Community (see
attached
updated draft
Final Report –
pages 21-22)</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica"></span></p>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Proposal presented by
Alan, that
stands
regardless of
what the
selection
panel is.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">What mechanism do we use,
once the
programme is
running, to
make sure the
programme
stays on
track?
Mid-course
corrections
might be
needed. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Called an “Advisory
Board”. Some
say it is a
working group,
or a
committee.
Arbitrary
name.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Role of the Advisory
Board (AB):</span></div>
</div>
<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">Consist
of people
nominated by
SO/ACs. ASO or
SSAC might not
have a lot of
interest, so
maybe a subset
of the SO/ACs<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">Primary
function is to
do an annual
review,
starting in
year 2.
Looking at
what projects
were approved,
how does it
map with what
we envisaged,
are the
projects
successful?<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">The
group could
report to the
ICANN Board,
the mechanism
itself, and to
the ICANN
community.<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Programme Evaluation
Panel (PEP):</span></div>
</div>
<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">See
organisational
reviews. Done
every 3 years<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">Taking
input from
Advisory Board
and others.
Are major
shifts needed?
Do we need to
change the
mechanism?<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Project Evaluation Panel
(PEP) = Group
doing the
actual
selection</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Assessment = determine
how well the
projects are
working</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Why are both AB and PEP
needed?</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">One is on an annual
basis, looking
at a low
level. Minor
changes,
tweaks. The
first group
will act as a
sounding board
to the PEP.
The second
group is
looking at
matters at a
much higher
level. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Erika:</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">asking for confirmation
from the group
about whether
this proposal
is something
that could be
supported by
the group in
principle. No
comments were
raised. the
group would
keep the
conversation
going.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Becky:</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Understands the different
roles. But if
things are
going
drastically
wrong, the AB
would notice
that. And that
might be the
trigger for a
different
process.
Concern why we
need both the
AB and the
PEP. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">The AB would be able to
interact with
the
independent
evaluation
panel and
provide input
in midst of
evaluation:
that is
extremely
worrisome.
Inappropriate
for the AB to
develop the
materials that
go out to
applicants.
Training etc
for those
doing the
evaluation.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Extreme danger of
affecting
outcome of
processes in
an ad hoc way,
which raises
the potential
for disputes. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Maureen:</span></div>
</div>
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<div
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">2 evaluation groups, that
increases the
potential for
conflict. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
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<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Alan:</span></div>
</div>
<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">Interaction
between
evaluation
group and
advisory
Board: From
the discussion
in Marrakech,
a proposal was
raised where
the PEP could
bring a
specific
project to AB
and ask for
opinions. This
raised strong
red flags.<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-left:36pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Can the evaluators ask
for
clarifications
somewhere?
That is what
we were
looking into</span></p>
<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">Instead
of a 3-year
review, having
it triggered
by the AB<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Becky:</span></div>
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<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">Role
of an audit.
We need to
understand the
full range of
accountability
things that
are going on
here. We
cannot have an
audit doing
the same thing
that the
programme
evaluation
panel would be
doing<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
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<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Erika:</span></div>
</div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Review cycle. Audit is
part of it</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Action item:</span></div>
</div>
<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">#4:
clarifications
to be provided
to ICANN Board
liaisons<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="circle">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">Alan
and Erika to
clean up the
current text. <span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">Leadership
team with
support from
staff will
review the
accountability
/ review
mechanisms,
incl. Audit.
See how they
overlap with
the proposal,
if at all<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
</ul>
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<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Erika:</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">No operational audit at
ICANN.
Financial
audit ICANN
does have</span></div>
</div>
<p
style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">3.</span><span
style="font-size:7pt;font-family:"Times
New
Roman",serif"> <span
class="gmail-m_-8723030305861631327gmail-m-8642028062264572387gmail-m-5630808288012805apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Discussion of Individual
Appeal
Mechanism (see
attached memo
from ICANN
Legal) </span></b><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica"></span></p>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Introduction by Sam:</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">If there were to be a
separate
appeals
process, it
would have to
be simple.
Other grant
making
organisations
have also a
lightweight
process.
Appeals are
not about the
individual
judgement of
the panel. It
needs to be
based on
certain
grounds. E.g.
improper
criteria
applied, lack
of compliance
with published
process, COI
etc.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Do not allow individual
grant
applicants,
and they
should not use
ICANN’s
accountability
mechanisms.
What will give
them a chance
to challenge
decisions? Due
process?</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
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<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Action items:</span></div>
</div>
<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">#5:
Group members
are invited to
review Sam’s
memo ahead of
the next
meeting.<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Alan:</span></div>
</div>
<ul
style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-top:0cm"
type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">Who
does it go to?<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">Applicant
to receive
rationale for
rejection of
an
application?<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
</ul>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
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style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Sam: </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm
0cm
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Final appeals process
needs to match
with the
process we
have. Maybe
not all
grounds would
apply. Who the
evaluator is?
These are
appeals to the
panel itself,
or a person
that oversees
the panel. It
is at the
implementation
level. How is
the panel
administered?
A person
responsible
for
coordinating
the work by
the panel?
Into the panel
decision
making
process.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
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<div
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Action items: </span></div>
</div>
<ul
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type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline">#6:
Sam will
revise the
proposal about
the individual
appeal. Alan,
possibly other
community
members will
weigh in over
email
regarding
Sam’s proposal<span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></li>
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