<div dir="auto">Hi Sam<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You attributed something to me that John Levine wrote in response to my saying that some people needed support in writing the sort of application that we may require them to complete. But really they need to fully understand its requirements well in advance of even applying. And while they may get feedback on the process, no reference should be made of the actual evaluation.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As John pointed out, and we all agree, this is a capacity development need not an evaluation need.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Maureen</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 20 Aug 2019, 1:23 PM Sam Lanfranco, <<a href="mailto:sam@lanfranco.net">sam@lanfranco.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Three quick small comments:</p>
<p>1. I don't think there is any thought about applicants not being
able to re-apply in subsequent rounds. As noted, some applicants
learn from both their rejections and access to the proposals of
those who were funded. <br>
</p>
<p>2. The policies for handling subsequent proposals from successful
applicants need to be thought through carefully, and be made clear
from the start. Some funding sources have a two-stage funding
process built in, wherein a successful preliminary project has
specified access to a second level project proposal window, but no
assurance of funding. Others do not, and expect successful
projects to look elsewhere for subsequent funding, or to reapply
with no preferential treatment. <br>
</p>
<p>3. Maureen Hilyard writes: "<i>I really do not think it is our
job to tell people how to rewrite their proposals so they can
reapply. (Will there even be a chance to reapply?) If we want
to provide grant writing help, we should make that part of the </i><i>plan
and not confuse it with the grant evaluation</i>." As one of
those who proposed some training or orientation for applicants, I
agree with her here. I would like to see some open access training
materials used to help make clear what the ICANN auction funds
Calls for Proposals should have to constitute a relevant and
adequately constructed application for funding. This would assist
those writing the proposals, be they those who will execute the
project, or those retained to assist with proposal writing. <br>
</p>
<p>Sam L. <br>
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<div class="m_7578031077547598637moz-cite-prefix">On 8/20/2019 6:50 PM, Sylvia Cadena
wrote:<br>
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<pre class="m_7578031077547598637moz-quote-pre">Once a call is closed no one can apply to that particular call, but I have never heard of a grants program that does not allow organizations that were not successful to apply for future rounds of funding. They should be able to re-apply, as there is no plan to allocate all auction proceeds in one go. As long as the criteria is met, that should not be an issue.
It is very common to have a percentage of unsuccessful applicants re-applying. In our case, some organizations applied at least 3 times before they are granted funding. Considering the number of organizations that work around the objectives of this fund, that seems very likely.
Successful applicants that have already received funding should -in my opinion- be able to request additional funding as well. Either for the same project or for a totally different one. That is done by most large donors to support scale-up and achieve impact for a solution that works, or to support organizations that are done really well on their reporting and outcomes, as impact takes time. But that is -again- a different subject. That is particularly important with large organizations such as universities, where funding can go to one department/faculty once and then to a different one in the future.
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Sylvia
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On 21/8/19, 6:58 am, "Ccwg-auctionproceeds on behalf of John R Levine" <a class="m_7578031077547598637moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.orgonbehalfofjohnl@taugh.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org on behalf of johnl@taugh.com></a> wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2019, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
> I agree with Sylvia and especially with regards to feedback to those whose
> proposals are rejected. They need appropriate feedback that will help them
> to produce the applications that are going to make the grade. This is more
> needed by those from underserved communities that do not have experience in
> writing such proposals yet are requesting something that is really
> worthwhile.
I really do not think it is our job to tell people how to rewrite their
proposals so they can reapply. (Will there even be a chance to reapply?)
If we want to provide grant writing help, we should make that part of the
plan and not confuse it with the grant evaluation.
Regards,
John Levine, <a class="m_7578031077547598637moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:johnl@taugh.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">johnl@taugh.com</a>, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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