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<p>HI All,</p>
<p>Are we removing the first paragraph and just keeping the second.
I found the first paragraph a bit confusing. The second is clear
and crisp</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Judith<br>
</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/23/2019 3:23 PM, Maureen Hilyard
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I agree to remove because as Marilyn has mentioned,
it seems to conflict with the consensus opinion of our recent
discussion on this issue. </div>
<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 9:10
AM Becky Burr <<a href="mailto:BBurr@hwglaw.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">BBurr@hwglaw.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I
would remove it.<br>
<br>
<br>
J. Beckwith Burr<br>
<br>
HARRIS, WILTSHIRE & GRANNIS LLP<br>
<br>
1919 M Street NW/8th Floor<br>
<br>
Washington DC 20036<br>
<br>
202.730.1316 (P) 202.352.6367 (M)<br>
<br>
<br>
________________________________<br>
From: Marika Konings <<a
href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">marika.konings@icann.org</a>><br>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 2:06:27 PM<br>
To: Becky Burr<br>
Cc: Becky Burr; Marilyn Cade; <a
href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] [Ext] Re: For your review
- updated language in relation to individual appeals mechanism<br>
<br>
Both paragraphs would be included - the second is the actual
recommendation. If you and others think this sentence could be
interpreted to mean that despite the CCWG’s recommendation the
mechanism could still establish an individual appeals process,
maybe it is best to remove it?<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Marika<br>
<br>
> On 23 Aug 2019, at 09:43, Becky Burr <<a
href="mailto:BBurr@hwglaw.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">BBurr@hwglaw.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Will both paragraphs be included or just the second? If
both, what does this sentence mean: "This should not
necessarily prevent applicants from seeking redress through
other means as defined by the mechanism responsible for
disbursement of auction proceeds."<br>
><br>
><br>
> Does this mean the independent evaluation panel would be
permitted to create redress mechanisms? Is that what is
intended?<br>
><br>
><br>
> J. Beckwith Burr<br>
><br>
> HARRIS, WILTSHIRE & GRANNIS LLP<br>
><br>
> 1919 M Street NW/8th Floor<br>
><br>
> Washington DC 20036<br>
><br>
> 202.730.1316 (P) 202.352.6367 (M)<br>
><br>
><br>
> ________________________________<br>
> From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <<a
href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org</a>>
on behalf of Marika Konings <<a
href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">marika.konings@icann.org</a>><br>
> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 10:50:50 AM<br>
> To: Becky Burr; Marilyn Cade<br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] [Ext] Re: For your
review - updated language in relation to individual appeals
mechanism<br>
><br>
> Thanks all for your input. The updated language would
read as follows:<br>
><br>
> The CCWG discussed whether an appeals mechanism should be
available for applicant not selected and/but agreed that this
would create a level of complexity that was deemed not
desirable or necessary, after having reviewed how other
organizations deal with appeals. Instead, it is the
expectation that applicants not selected [should receive
further details about where information can be found about the
next round of applications as well as any educational
materials that may be available to assist applicants]. would
receive feedback as part of the response to their application
outlining the reasons for why their application was not
selected. Also, in the context of the regular review of the
mechanisms, both selected applicants and non-selected
applicants should be invited to participate and provide any
feedback they may have on how the program can be further
improved. The CCWG did agree that appropriate measures should
be taken that would exclude applicants from using ICANN
accountability measures such as IRP. The reason for this
recommendation is that the Board decision in this [any review]
context would be in relation to the [overall program’s]
disbursement of funds based on the recommendations of the
independent evaluation panel and not as a result of the
ICANN’s Board assessment of an individual application. This
should not necessarily prevent applicants from seeking redress
through other means as defined by the mechanism responsible
for disbursement of auction proceeds.<br>
> CCWG Recommendation #NEW: Applicants should not have
access to ICANN accountability mechanisms such as IRP to
challenge a decision from the independent evaluation panel to
not approve their application, but applicants not selected
[should receive further details about where information can be
found about the next round of applications as well as any
educational materials that may be available to assist
applicants]. [not selected should receive feedback as part of
the response to their application outlining the reasons for
why their application was not selected].<br>
> Best regards,<br>
><br>
> Marika<br>
><br>
> From: Becky Burr <<a
href="mailto:becky.burr@board.icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">becky.burr@board.icann.org</a>><br>
> Date: Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 11:36<br>
> To: Marilyn Cade <<a
href="mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">marilynscade@hotmail.com</a>><br>
> Cc: "<a href="mailto:maarten.botterman@board.icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">maarten.botterman@board.icann.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:maarten.botterman@board.icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">maarten.botterman@board.icann.org</a>>,
Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a>><br>
> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review
- updated language in relation to individual appeals mechanism<br>
><br>
> agree with Marilyn's proposed changes<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 1:25 PM Marilyn Cade <<a
href="mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">marilynscade@hotmail.com</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">marilynscade@hotmail.com</a>>>
wrote:<br>
> Agreeing with Maarten.<br>
> If people can misunderstand, they will! It is just human
nature, made more complex by multiple languages.<br>
><br>
> 🙂<br>
> I am going a little further with a slight adjustment to
the present language/but it is only a<br>
> POSSIBLE REVISION: HIGHLIGHTED/AND IN CAPS. Deletions in
[ ].<br>
><br>
><br>
> The reason for this recommendation is that the Board
decision in [this] ANY REVIEW context would be in relation to
the OVERALL PROGRAM'S disbursement of funds based on the
recommendations of the independent evaluation panel<br>
><br>
> ________________________________<br>
> From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <<a
href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org</a>>>
on behalf of <a
href="mailto:maarten.botterman@board.icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">maarten.botterman@board.icann.org</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:maarten.botterman@board.icann.org"
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> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 10:40 AM<br>
> To: 'Marika Konings' <<a
href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">marika.konings@icann.org</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>><br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a>>
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a>>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review -
updated language in relation to individual appeals mechanism<br>
><br>
><br>
> Dear Marika,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Just to avoid new confusion, it may be good to be crisp
clear in your text that neither Board nor Org will be
evaluating and making determinations on individual
applications, this is the role of the Independent Panel.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> When you say below:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> The reason for this recommendation is that the Board
decision in this context would be in relation to the
disbursement of funds based on the recommendations of the
independent evaluation panel and not as a result of the
ICANN’s Board assessment of an individual application.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> It may happen that people who have not intensely followed
the process *could* get the impression that the Board would
assess individual applications, and we will not.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Thanks<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Maarten<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <<a
href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org</a>>>
On Behalf Of Marika Konings<br>
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:42<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a>><br>
> Subject: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated
language in relation to individual appeals mechanism<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Dear CCWG,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Thanks all for your input and suggestions in relation to
the proposed language concerning the individual appeals
mechanism. Hereby for your review updated language (in bold
and brackets) which aims to reflect the input received during
today’s meeting. As also noted, staff will review the latest
draft of the report and insert in the appropriate place
implementation guidance that would recommend that appropriate
informational materials are developed and provided to assist
applicants. If you have any further comments, concerns or
suggestions, please share these by Friday 23 August at the
latest.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Proposed text for inclusion in the Final Report in
relation to an individual appeals mechanism:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> The CCWG discussed whether an appeals mechanism should be
available for applicant not selected and/but agreed that this
would create a level of complexity that was deemed not
desirable or necessary, after having reviewed how other
organizations deal with appeals. Instead, it is the
expectation that applicants not selected [should receive
further details about where information can be found about the
next round of applications as well as any educational
materials that may be available to assist applicants]. would
receive feedback as part of the response to their application
outlining the reasons for why their application was not
selected. Also, in the context of the regular review of the
mechanisms, both selected applicants and non-selected
applicants should be invited to participate and provide any
feedback they may have on how the program can be further
improved. The CCWG did agree that appropriate measures should
be taken that would exclude applicants from using ICANN
accountability measures such as IRP. The reason for this
recommendation is that the Board decision in this context
would be in relation to the disbursement of funds based on the
recommendations of the independent evaluation panel and not as
a result of the ICANN’s Board assessment of an individual
application. This should not necessarily prevent applicants
from seeking redress through other means as defined by the
mechanism responsible for disbursement of auction proceeds.<br>
><br>
> CCWG Recommendation #NEW: Applicants should not have
access to ICANN accountability mechanisms such as IRP to
challenge a decision from the independent evaluation panel to
not approve their application, but applicants not selected
[should receive further details about where information can be
found about the next round of applications as well as any
educational materials that may be available to assist
applicants]. [not selected should receive feedback as part of
the response to their application outlining the reasons for
why their application was not selected].<br>
><br>
> Best regards,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Marika<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Marika Konings<br>
><br>
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