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<div dir="ltr">Judith, the first paragraph is intended to describe the CCWG deliberations that led to the recommendation (the second paragraph) so the reader of the report has the appropriate context. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Best regards,</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Marika</div>
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On 23 Aug 2019, at 15:45, Judith Hellerstein <<a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com">judith@jhellerstein.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>HI All,</p>
<p>Are we removing the first paragraph and just keeping the second. I found the first paragraph a bit confusing. The second is clear and crisp</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Judith<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/23/2019 3:23 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I agree to remove because as Marilyn has mentioned, it seems to conflict with the consensus opinion of our recent discussion on this issue. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 9:10 AM Becky Burr <<a href="mailto:BBurr@hwglaw.com" moz-do-not-send="true">BBurr@hwglaw.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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I would remove it.<br>
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J. Beckwith Burr<br>
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HARRIS, WILTSHIRE & GRANNIS LLP<br>
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1919 M Street NW/8th Floor<br>
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Washington DC 20036<br>
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202.730.1316 (P) 202.352.6367 (M)<br>
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________________________________<br>
From: Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">marika.konings@icann.org</a>><br>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 2:06:27 PM<br>
To: Becky Burr<br>
Cc: Becky Burr; Marilyn Cade; <a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] [Ext] Re: For your review - updated language in relation to individual appeals mechanism<br>
<br>
Both paragraphs would be included - the second is the actual recommendation. If you and others think this sentence could be interpreted to mean that despite the CCWG’s recommendation the mechanism could still establish an individual appeals process, maybe it
is best to remove it?<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Marika<br>
<br>
> On 23 Aug 2019, at 09:43, Becky Burr <<a href="mailto:BBurr@hwglaw.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">BBurr@hwglaw.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Will both paragraphs be included or just the second? If both, what does this sentence mean: "This should not necessarily prevent applicants from seeking redress through other means as defined by the mechanism responsible for disbursement of auction proceeds."<br>
><br>
><br>
> Does this mean the independent evaluation panel would be permitted to create redress mechanisms? Is that what is intended?<br>
><br>
><br>
> J. Beckwith Burr<br>
><br>
> HARRIS, WILTSHIRE & GRANNIS LLP<br>
><br>
> 1919 M Street NW/8th Floor<br>
><br>
> Washington DC 20036<br>
><br>
> 202.730.1316 (P) 202.352.6367 (M)<br>
><br>
><br>
> ________________________________<br>
> From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">marika.konings@icann.org</a>><br>
> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 10:50:50 AM<br>
> To: Becky Burr; Marilyn Cade<br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] [Ext] Re: For your review - updated language in relation to individual appeals mechanism<br>
><br>
> Thanks all for your input. The updated language would read as follows:<br>
><br>
> The CCWG discussed whether an appeals mechanism should be available for applicant not selected and/but agreed that this would create a level of complexity that was deemed not desirable or necessary, after having reviewed how other organizations deal with
appeals. Instead, it is the expectation that applicants not selected [should receive further details about where information can be found about the next round of applications as well as any educational materials that may be available to assist applicants].
would receive feedback as part of the response to their application outlining the reasons for why their application was not selected. Also, in the context of the regular review of the mechanisms, both selected applicants and non-selected applicants should
be invited to participate and provide any feedback they may have on how the program can be further improved. The CCWG did agree that appropriate measures should be taken that would exclude applicants from using ICANN accountability measures such as IRP. The
reason for this recommendation is that the Board decision in this [any review] context would be in relation to the [overall program’s] disbursement of funds based on the recommendations of the independent evaluation panel and not as a result of the ICANN’s
Board assessment of an individual application. This should not necessarily prevent applicants from seeking redress through other means as defined by the mechanism responsible for disbursement of auction proceeds.<br>
> CCWG Recommendation #NEW: Applicants should not have access to ICANN accountability mechanisms such as IRP to challenge a decision from the independent evaluation panel to not approve their application, but applicants not selected [should receive further
details about where information can be found about the next round of applications as well as any educational materials that may be available to assist applicants]. [not selected should receive feedback as part of the response to their application outlining
the reasons for why their application was not selected].<br>
> Best regards,<br>
><br>
> Marika<br>
><br>
> From: Becky Burr <<a href="mailto:becky.burr@board.icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">becky.burr@board.icann.org</a>><br>
> Date: Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 11:36<br>
> To: Marilyn Cade <<a href="mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">marilynscade@hotmail.com</a>><br>
> Cc: "<a href="mailto:maarten.botterman@board.icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">maarten.botterman@board.icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:maarten.botterman@board.icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">maarten.botterman@board.icann.org</a>>,
Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a>><br>
> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated language in relation to individual appeals mechanism<br>
><br>
> agree with Marilyn's proposed changes<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 1:25 PM Marilyn Cade <<a href="mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">marilynscade@hotmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">marilynscade@hotmail.com</a>>>
wrote:<br>
> Agreeing with Maarten.<br>
> If people can misunderstand, they will! It is just human nature, made more complex by multiple languages.<br>
><br>
> 🙂<br>
> I am going a little further with a slight adjustment to the present language/but it is only a<br>
> POSSIBLE REVISION: HIGHLIGHTED/AND IN CAPS. Deletions in [ ].<br>
><br>
><br>
> The reason for this recommendation is that the Board decision in [this] ANY REVIEW context would be in relation to the OVERALL PROGRAM'S disbursement of funds based on the recommendations of the independent evaluation panel<br>
><br>
> ________________________________<br>
> From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org</a>>>
on behalf of <a href="mailto:maarten.botterman@board.icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
maarten.botterman@board.icann.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:maarten.botterman@board.icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">maarten.botterman@board.icann.org</a>> <<a href="mailto:maarten.botterman@board.icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">maarten.botterman@board.icann.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:maarten.botterman@board.icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">maarten.botterman@board.icann.org</a>>><br>
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 10:40 AM<br>
> To: 'Marika Konings' <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">marika.konings@icann.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>><br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a>> <<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a>>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated language in relation to individual appeals mechanism<br>
><br>
><br>
> Dear Marika,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Just to avoid new confusion, it may be good to be crisp clear in your text that neither Board nor Org will be evaluating and making determinations on individual applications, this is the role of the Independent Panel.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> When you say below:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> The reason for this recommendation is that the Board decision in this context would be in relation to the disbursement of funds based on the recommendations of the independent evaluation panel and not as a result of the ICANN’s Board assessment of an individual
application.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> It may happen that people who have not intensely followed the process *could* get the impression that the Board would assess individual applications, and we will not.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Thanks<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Maarten<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> From: Ccwg-auctionproceeds <<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org</a>>>
On Behalf Of Marika Konings<br>
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:42<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a>><br>
> Subject: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated language in relation to individual appeals mechanism<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Dear CCWG,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Thanks all for your input and suggestions in relation to the proposed language concerning the individual appeals mechanism. Hereby for your review updated language (in bold and brackets) which aims to reflect the input received during today’s meeting. As
also noted, staff will review the latest draft of the report and insert in the appropriate place implementation guidance that would recommend that appropriate informational materials are developed and provided to assist applicants. If you have any further
comments, concerns or suggestions, please share these by Friday 23 August at the latest.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Proposed text for inclusion in the Final Report in relation to an individual appeals mechanism:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> The CCWG discussed whether an appeals mechanism should be available for applicant not selected and/but agreed that this would create a level of complexity that was deemed not desirable or necessary, after having reviewed how other organizations deal with
appeals. Instead, it is the expectation that applicants not selected [should receive further details about where information can be found about the next round of applications as well as any educational materials that may be available to assist applicants].
would receive feedback as part of the response to their application outlining the reasons for why their application was not selected. Also, in the context of the regular review of the mechanisms, both selected applicants and non-selected applicants should
be invited to participate and provide any feedback they may have on how the program can be further improved. The CCWG did agree that appropriate measures should be taken that would exclude applicants from using ICANN accountability measures such as IRP. The
reason for this recommendation is that the Board decision in this context would be in relation to the disbursement of funds based on the recommendations of the independent evaluation panel and not as a result of the ICANN’s Board assessment of an individual
application. This should not necessarily prevent applicants from seeking redress through other means as defined by the mechanism responsible for disbursement of auction proceeds.<br>
><br>
> CCWG Recommendation #NEW: Applicants should not have access to ICANN accountability mechanisms such as IRP to challenge a decision from the independent evaluation panel to not approve their application, but applicants not selected [should receive further
details about where information can be found about the next round of applications as well as any educational materials that may be available to assist applicants]. [not selected should receive feedback as part of the response to their application outlining
the reasons for why their application was not selected].<br>
><br>
> Best regards,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Marika<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Marika Konings<br>
><br>
> Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)<br>
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