<div dir="ltr">Thank you for being able to accept this, Judith! <div><br></div><div>Wishing you a good day, </div><div>Erika </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 5:51 PM Judith Hellerstein <<a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com">judith@jhellerstein.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>HI Emily,</p>
<p>Thanks so much for your clarification. It does help. I guess
like Maureen I am resigned to accepting the consensus definition
as it is what is in the charter and we cannot go back to change
things now. <br>
</p>
<p>Thanks again to you, Erika, and Ching for all your great work on
this document</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Judith<br>
</p>
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Hellerstein & Associates
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<div>On 5/25/2020 11:02 AM, Emily Barabas
wrote:<br>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Hi
Judith,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Thanks
for your response and this additional input. As Erika
mentioned in her response to Maureen, the definition of
consensus is included in the charter, so this is not a
definition we can change. </span><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">As
a point of clarification, the consensus level designation
refers specifically to the level of support for the text of
the recommendations.
</span><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">The consensus
level designation is not intended to directly reflect the
results of the poll. Rather, the poll was a tool to inform
drafting of the recommendation text.
</span><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">In the case of recommendation 1, “consensus”
support means that
</span><span style="color:black;background:white" lang="EN-US">the
following is a</span><span style="color:black;background:white"> position where a small
minority disagrees, but most agree</span><span style="color:black;background:white" lang="EN-US">:</span><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;background:white" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;background:white" lang="EN-US">“</span><span style="color:black">The CCWG
recommends that the Board select either mechanism A or
mechanism B for the allocation of auction proceeds, taking
into account the preference expressed by CCWG members for
mechanism A</span><span style="color:black"> </span>
<span style="color:black">.</span><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"> . . ”<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Does
the above clarification address your concerns, and if not,
can you kindly advise if there is something else the CCWG
can do to accommodate your concerns?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Kind
regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Emily<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Ccwg-auctionproceeds
<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org></a> on behalf
of Judith Hellerstein <a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank"><judith@jhellerstein.com></a><br>
<b>Organisation: </b>Hellerstein & Associates<br>
<b>Reply to: </b><a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank">"judith@jhellerstein.com"</a>
<a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank"><judith@jhellerstein.com></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, 25 May 2020 at 16:40<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank">"ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org"</a>
<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank"><ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER -
Deadline Thursday, 28 May - minority statements<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<p>HI Emily,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>I agree with Maureen on this statement. I do not like the
word Small in the definition. Is there another way to describe
this as the definition in the charter of consensus is not what
we have here? On all other recommendations we can use the word
consensus but not on the mechanism chosen <u></u><u></u></p>
<p>If looking at the poll results. We see that 7 people voted
for A, 4 for B and 3 for C so it seem that there were an equal
number of votes for 'NOT" A as there were votes "FOR" A thus
we cannot say a small majority disagree. We can only say that
there was a preference for Mechanism A but that there was an
equal preference for not A.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>So we cannot say there is a consensus on the type of
mechanism, we can say there is a preference?
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Judith<u></u><u></u></p>
<pre>_________________________________________________________________________<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>Hellerstein & Associates<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein<u></u><u></u></pre>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 5/25/2020 5:35 AM, Maureen Hilyard
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Emily <u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">The more that I see the statement of
"small minority", the more I cannot agree with the
"small" being included there. <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">If you are still asking, my vote goes
to removing "small" from the consensus definition so
that it reads "a position where a minority disagrees,
but a majority agree" <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Maureen<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:27 PM
Emily Barabas <<a href="mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org" target="_blank">emily.barabas@icann.org</a>>
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear all,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">As a reminder, if you would like to
submit minority viewpoints (details below), the
deadline to do so is this
<b>Thursday, 28 May at </b></span><b><span style="color:black">23:59 UTC</span></b><b><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">.</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"> </span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Kind regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Emily</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Erika Mann
<<a href="mailto:erika@erikamann.com" target="_blank">erika@erikamann.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 7 May 2020 at 15:42<br>
<b>To: </b>Ccwg-auctionproceeds <<a href="mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" target="_blank">ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Ching Chiao <<a href="mailto:ching.chiao@gmail.com" target="_blank">ching.chiao@gmail.com</a>>,
Emily Barabas <<a href="mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org" target="_blank">emily.barabas@icann.org</a>>,
Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>,
Joke Braeken <<a href="mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org" target="_blank">joke.braeken@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Ext] Fwd: Message for Erika to
send to CCWG today [Subject: CCWG Auction
Proceeds Consensus Call - Deadline 21 May 2020]</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dear
all,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thank you to those who
participated in the final poll on
mechanisms. Please find attached the Final
Report reflecting results of the poll (see
poll results in excel format <a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/126432332/CCWG%20Auction%20Proceeds%20-%20Final%20Survey%20on%20Mechanisms%20-%20Summary.xlsx?version=1&modificationDate=1588328283000&api=v2" target="_blank">
here</a>). With 15 members and 4
participants responding, poll results
indicate strong support for mechanism A,
followed by mechanism B with the majority
of members supporting that the CCWG should
recommend two mechanisms. Section 4.7 of
the Report and Recommendation #1 have been
updated to reflect this result.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Seeing that there were
no additional comments on the last
revision circulated, the leadership team
now considers the Final Report complete.
The next step in the process is for the
Co-Chairs to make a designation of the
level of consensus for the recommendations
in the report (see
<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/CWGONGAP/CCWG+Charter" target="_blank">
<span style="color:black">charter</span></a>
for details, an excerpt of which is
included below).
<b>We believe that the CCWG supports the
recommendations in this report by
Consensus. Consensus is defined as “a
position where a small minority
disagrees, but most agree.” If you are a
member of the CCWG and you disagree with
this designation, please respond to the
email list no later than </b></span><b><span lang="EN-US">21 May</span><span style="color:black"> at 23:59 UTC (14
days from today).</span></b><span style="color:black">
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:black"> </span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="color:black">Please note that at
this stage, we are not revisiting the
substance of the recommendations or
asking you to state your positions on
specific recommendations. We are
requesting a response only if you
believe that the consensus designation
is incorrect. If you would like to
submit a minority viewpoint on the
content of the recommendations,
</span></u><u><span lang="EN-US">you may
do so, but this is separate from the
consensus call. Minority statements will
be due 28 May</span><span style="color:black"> at 23:59 UTC (</span></u><u><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">21</span><span style="color:black"> days from today). </span></u><u><span lang="EN-US">M</span>inority statements
may be included in an annex
</u><u><span lang="EN-US">to the Final
Report </span>or linked from </u><u><span lang="EN-US">the Final Report to
</span>the wiki, depending on the length
and number of statements received</u><u><span lang="EN-US">.</span></u><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Please also find
attached a draft cover letter to send to
the Chartering Organizations with the
Final Report.
<b>If you have questions or comments on
this draft letter, please send to the</b>
<b>email list no later than </b></span><b><span lang="EN-US">21 May<i><span style="color:black">
</span></i></span><span style="color:black">at 23:59 UTC (14
days from today).</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background:white"><span style="color:black">We hope you are all
well, take good care and, </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background:white"><span style="color:black">kind regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background:white"><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background:white"><span style="color:black">Erika and Ching</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background:white"><i><span style="color:black"> </span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
<div style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:1pt solid windowtext;padding:0cm 0cm 1pt">
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background:white"><i><span style="color:black"> </span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background:white"><i><span style="color:black"> </span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background:white"><i><span style="color:black"> </span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background:white"><b><i><span style="color:black">Excerpt from the
CCWG Charter regarding Consensus
Designation:</span></i></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background:white"><i><span style="color:black"> </span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background:white"><i><span style="color:black">In developing its
output, work plan and any other reports,
the CCWG shall seek to act by consensus.
The chair(s) may make a call for
Consensus. If making such a call they
should always make reasonable efforts to
involve all Chartering Organization
appointed Members of the CCWG (or
sub-teams, if applicable). The chair(s)
shall be responsible for designating
each position as having one of the
following designations:</span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;break-inside:avoid;break-after:avoid;word-spacing:0px"><i><span style="color:black"> </span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-left:18pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background:white;break-inside:avoid;break-after:avoid"><i><span style="color:black">a)</span></i><i><span> </span></i><i><span style="font-size:7pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black">Full Consensus - a
position where no minority disagrees;
identified by an absence of objection</span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-left:18pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background:white;break-inside:avoid;break-after:avoid"><i><span style="color:black">b)</span></i><i><span> </span></i><i><span style="font-size:7pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black">Consensus – a
position where a small minority
disagrees, but most agree</span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;break-inside:avoid;break-after:avoid;word-spacing:0px"><i><span style="color:black"> </span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;break-inside:avoid;break-after:avoid;word-spacing:0px"><i><span style="color:black">In the absence of
Full Consensus, the chair(s) should
allow for the submission of minority
viewpoint(s) by the Chartering
Organization appointed members and
these, along with the consensus view,
shall be included in the report.</span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;break-inside:avoid;break-after:avoid;word-spacing:0px"><i><span style="color:black"> </span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background:white"><i><span style="color:black"> </span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
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