[ccwg-internet-governance] [soac-discussion] CCWG Internet Governance

Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond ocl at gih.com
Wed Dec 11 15:01:04 UTC 2013


Dear Bill,

4 appears to be the upper limit per SO/AC/SG that's ok with everyone.
Elisa has let us know of a smaller subset of active people, with the
others listed as observers.
>From experience, I've never seen a full set of attendees at any call in
past CCWG calls.
Kind regards,

Olivier

On 11/12/2013 13:48, William Drake wrote:
> Hi folks
>
> without wanting to overly formalize things or turn this into the sort
> of mind numbing debate about how many of who gets to sit where that
> we’ve experienced with 1net and beyond, it does seem to me we are
> going to need some baseline agreement here.  It’s not going to work
> well if NCSG and At Large limit themselves to three each while BC has
> a dozen, RySG has 4, etc etc.  Someone in our respective communities
> will object that the process is not multi-equal-stakeholders (hey, I
> found a use for the term :-) and needs to restart with parity.
>
> Under the circumstances I’m inclined to propose up to four per tribe.
>  Even with this restriction, the group will be gigantic and may
> struggle.  What do others think?  Elisa, no way you could sell a
> initial limit with final selection tbd?
>
> Either way, please let me know ASAP.  If we have no limits I am
> guessing a bunch of noncommercial folks will want to join the call
> tonight, so I would need to send out the dial in info pronto to avoid
> grumpiness.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> On Dec 10, 2013, at 10:43 PM, Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com
> <mailto:kdrazek at verisign.com>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Olivier,
>>  
>> From the RySG, please include the following:
>>  
>> Sarah Falvey sarahfalvey at google.com <mailto:sarahfalvey at google.com>
>> Ken Stubbs kstubbs at afilias.info <mailto:kstubbs at afilias.info>
>> David Maher dmaher at pir.org <mailto:dmaher at pir.org>
>> Keith Drazek kdrazek at verisign.com <mailto:kdrazek at verisign.com>
>>  
>> Thank you!
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Keith
>>  
>> *From:* owner-soac-discussion at icann.org
>> <mailto:owner-soac-discussion at icann.org> [mailto:owner-soac-discussion at icann.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:10 PM
>> *To:* Michele Neylon - Blacknight; soac-discussion at icann.org
>> <mailto:soac-discussion at icann.org>
>> *Cc:* Elisa Cooper; ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org
>> <mailto:ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org>; Ergys Ramaj
>> *Subject:* Re: [soac-discussion] CCWG Internet Governance
>>  
>>
>> Dear Michele,
>>
>> thanks for this. Excellent to hear James is joining. I have asked
>> Ergys to add him because I don't have the ability to add anyone to
>> the mailing list. So if you need to add people and that includes the
>> request from Elisa too, please email ergys.ramaj at icann.org
>> <mailto:ergys.ramaj at icann.org> who is the Staff member supporting the
>> WG and he'll add the names to the list.
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>> On 10/12/2013 20:04, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>>
>>     Olivier et al
>>      
>>     Please add James Bladel (jbladel at godaddy.com
>>     <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>)  from the RrSG – I’ll stay as well
>>      
>>     Regards
>>      
>>     Michele
>>      
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>>      
>>     *From:* owner-soac-discussion at icann.org
>>     <mailto:owner-soac-discussion at icann.org> [mailto:owner-soac-discussion at icann.org] *On
>>     Behalf Of *Drazek, Keith
>>     *Sent:* Saturday, December 7, 2013 3:36 PM
>>     *To:* Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond; soac-discussion at icann.org
>>     <mailto:soac-discussion at icann.org>
>>     *Cc:* Elisa Cooper; Tracy Hackshaw (Tracy.Hackshaw at gov.tt
>>     <mailto:Tracy.Hackshaw at gov.tt>); Duncan Burns; Olof Nordling;
>>     Theresa Swinehart; ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org
>>     <mailto:ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org>
>>     *Subject:* RE: [soac-discussion] CCWG Internet Governance
>>      
>>     Thanks Olivier.  The RySG is working to identify a candidate or
>>     candidates now.
>>      
>>     Regards,
>>     Keith
>>      
>>     *From:* owner-soac-discussion at icann.org
>>     <mailto:owner-soac-discussion at icann.org> [mailto:owner-soac-discussion at icann.org] *On
>>     Behalf Of *Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
>>     *Sent:* Friday, December 06, 2013 6:40 PM
>>     *To:* soac-discussion at icann.org <mailto:soac-discussion at icann.org>
>>     *Cc:* Elisa Cooper; Tracy Hackshaw (Tracy.Hackshaw at gov.tt
>>     <mailto:Tracy.Hackshaw at gov.tt>); Duncan Burns; Olof Nordling;
>>     Theresa Swinehart; ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org
>>     <mailto:ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org>
>>     *Subject:* Re: [soac-discussion] CCWG Internet Governance
>>      
>>     Dear all,
>>
>>     I realise that the SO/AC mailing list is a closed mailing list
>>     which might not have readily available/findable/open archive of
>>     mailings, so some people in our ICANN community are wondering
>>     what in the world is happening here.
>>
>>     Therefore three things I'd suggest:
>>
>>      1. if you haven't already done so, please share the announcement
>>         of the creation of this CCWG on Internet Governance with your
>>         community. The archives of the WG are open and can therefore
>>         be readily consulted in full transparency.
>>      2. for those SO/AC/SG Chairs who have not yet identified a list
>>         of people you'd like to take direct part in the WG (average
>>         so far is around 3-4 per SO/AC/SG) don't worry -- work will
>>         start but things will be archived for your colleagues to catch up
>>      3. I'll switch further communication to the
>>         ccwg-internet-governance mailing list only in future mailing
>>         so as to be as transparent only whilst not crowding the SOAC
>>         Discussion list anymore.
>>
>>
>>     Kind regards,
>>
>>     Olivier
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 05/12/2013 00:12, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
>>
>>          
>>
>>         Hello all,
>>
>>          
>>
>>         so the mailing list(s) and the WIKI space have been created. Thanks to
>>
>>         Staff for their quick action.
>>
>>          
>>
>>         To subscribe to the mailing list & therefore join the WG:
>>
>>         https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-internet-governance
>>
>>          
>>
>>         To access the WIKI page: https://community.icann.org/x/kyWfAg
>>
>>          
>>
>>         Anyone with a confluence account can access/edit/add pages, comments,
>>
>>         attachments etc.
>>
>>          
>>
>>         Over to you all to get the discussion started on the mailing list, to
>>
>>         start organising the WIKI etc.
>>
>>          
>>
>>         Kind regards,
>>
>>          
>>
>>         Olivier
>>
>>          
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>
>>     Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
>>
>>     http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
>> http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
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>   Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>   University of Zurich, Switzerland
> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, 
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Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
http://www.gih.com/ocl.html

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