[ccwg-internet-governance] Public session for CCWG / Singapore meeting

Marilyn Cade marilynscade at hotmail.com
Mon Feb 17 17:00:38 UTC 2014

Thanks for your email, David.
The CCWG has identified coordinators to plan the session.  I think we will discuss how we want to handle moderating and facilitating, when we finish our consultation among the designated reps on how we want to design the session. 
We may want to use community moderators, and I'd like to keep that option open for my colleagues and I, as collaborators on planning the event.  We are designated by our SG/Constituencies/ACs/SOs, and we need to both consult more broadly.
Thanks for your generous offer, and I am sure we will want to consider it warmly.

From: david.olive at icann.org
To: ocl at gih.com
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:45:44 -0800
CC: tanzanica.king at icann.org; robert.hoggarth at icann.org; brad.white at icann.org; ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org; soac-discussion at icann.org; nick.tomasso at icann.org; duncan.burns at icann.org
Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Public session for CCWG / Singapore meeting

Thank you, Olivier, for your note.
I can confirm that we have received no objections to this proposal.  So there is an SO/AC/SG consensus to have the CCWG Session on Internet Governance have its session take place in lieu of the SO/AC High Interest Topic Session in Singapore.
I would note that I may not be in a position to immediately "confirm" that the session will "indeed take place as proposed" or precisely when it is scheduled on Monday in Singapore.
I can say that ICANN staff will move to get the session on the main schedule and will confirm timing as soon as we can. 
In the meantime,  Ergys and Alex  will be the ICANN staff  in  support of the CCWG session so that preparations can begin.   In addition, Brad White would be available to serve as moderator for this session.
Regards    David

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From:  Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
Date:  Sunday, February 16, 2014 2:39 PM
To:  David Olive <david.olive at icann.org>
Cc:  "ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org" <ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org>, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
Subject:  Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Public session for CCWG / Singapore meeting

Dear David,

following my email which you'll find below, there have only been answers of *support* to have the CCWG Session on Internet Governance have its session take place in lieu of the SO/AC High Interest Topic Session in Singapore. There is also Broad consensus from
 SO/AC Chairs.

I also note that a motion has been made on the call of the CCWG on 13 Feb 2014 and this was supported on the call. Motion called by Marilyn Cade & Seconded by Ken Stubbs. Full consensus and No objections on the call.

With full support from SO, AC and SG Chairs recorded both on the SO/AC Chairs and also the SO/AC Discussion list, I would like to formally ask you on behalf of the CCWG to confirm that this session will indeed be taking place as proposed.

Kind regards,

Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond

GGWG on IG Facilitator

On 12/02/2014 20:12, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
Dear WG participants,

The Chairs of SO/AC have held a conference call on Monday. I had made the request last week for the CCWG to take over the SO/AC High Interest Topic session slot on Monday morning in Singapore and therefore followed-up on the call, wearing the hat of the co-facilitator
 of this CCWG.

Although there is no objection to the meeting, some of the Chairs do not know the process by which they should consult their community on this prior to providing a formal answer. Indeed, the current SO/AC led High Interest Topic is usually chosen through a
 process where we all formally ask our community and revert back to Staff. The CCWG request did not allow enough time for such formal bottom-up feedback. Also, not all SO/AC Chairs were present on the call.

It is highly likely that the SO/AC led High Interest Topic will indeed be on "Internet Governance", so the content of the session might indeed be the same (or not... read later), but the question remains on whether this should be SO/AC led or CCWG Internet
 Governance led.

Ultimately I don't really think it makes a difference. What's important is that we get a reply and not a "I don't know... I don't know how to ask..." or no answer altogether.

I therefore ask you all, as people who are most in touch with your community, to leverage the bottom-up process and ask the question in your community and put pressure on your Leadership group and/or Chair to act on this simple question:

Can the SO/AC High Interest Session be replaced in Singapore only with the CCWG in Internet Governance Session? Yes or No.

For the time being, it's a YES from Patrik F?lstr?m (SSAC Chair) and a YES from me (wearing my Chair hat).

For the time being I (wearing my CCWG IG hat) have worked with ICANN Staff to have an alternative open. If Chairs of SO/AC are not able to provide a reply in time, then we'll use the Monday early afternoon session in the main hall at 13:30-15:00 to interact
 with the community.

It is also worth noting that there is a low (read: impossible) chance that the High Interest Topic could be Internet Governance if we also run the afternoon session about the CCWG on Internet Governance, so that could be a convincing argument for your leadership.

Kind regards,


On 11/02/2014 03:36, Marilyn Cade wrote:
Olivier was waiting for a response, and I believe also a discussion among the chairs of SO/ACs.

Also, Olivier, you had asked ICANN staff to notify the four reps from each group to designate a single contact to plan for the meeting.   
I have not seen a communication from ICANN staff on that request.  All of us will need to have a couple of days to take internal consultation.
We need to start planning in order to have an effective and useful session that is supported by ICANN staff, but driven and owned by the CCWG.  This is a good example of a community generated request -- when many in the community asked for more consultation
 and this group was set up.  I am anxious that we not drop the ball on our side. 

> From: 
kdrazek at verisign.com

> To: 
ocl at gih.com; 
ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org

> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:09:58 +0000

> Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Public session for CCWG / Singapore meeting


> Apologies if I missed it...did we receive any reply from ICANN about the re-purposing of the Monday SO/AC session to accommodate our CCWG-IG community outreach?


> Thanks and regards,

> Keith


> -----Original Message-----

> From: 
ccwg-internet-governance-bounces at icann.org [mailto:ccwg-internet-governance-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond

> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 7:34 PM

> To: 
ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org

> Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Public session for CCWG / Singapore meeting



> On 29/01/2014 22:48, Rafik Dammak wrote:

> > I am sending this email to follow-up with the action discussed during 

> > today's call : to request the meeting planners to replace (or 

> > repurpose )the SO/AC Chairs with Community Session (entitled "SO/AC 

> > led High-Interest Topic" in BA) by the CCWG with Community Session on 

> > Monday in Singapore meeting?

> >


> BTW - to be clear, this session is the session on the Monday of the Conference, between 10:30-12:00, which comes immediately after the opening ceremony.

> There are several advantages to this:


> - this comes immediately after Fadi's "update" and in Singapore, it is highly likely that a significant amount of Fadi's spiel will incorporate updates about the next stop in Internet Governance which is the Brazil meeting.

> - this is a session that's very well attended with the ICANN community - so it's a real opportunity to hear from the community about the work we will have done thus far and to gather their input for our next stage of work

> - this happens on Monday hence we have a few days until our F2F meeting on Wednesday or Thursday (whichever the Doodle Poll will tell us) to make our next meeting very productive.

> ==> please fill the DOODLE: 


> In 2 weeks, I have a call with SO/AC Chairs & will let them know of this proposal.


> Kind regards,


> Olivier

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