[ccwg-internet-governance] WSIS FORUM AT ITU; ICANN

Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond ocl at gih.com
Sat Apr 25 09:03:25 UTC 2015

Dear Bill,

thanks for your kind email - and interesting proposal. Let's see what
everyone else thinks!


On 25/04/2015 09:07, William Drake wrote:
> Hi
> Olivier raises a valid concern.  While the cluster of activities often
> referred to as ICANN globalization—transition, offices/staff around
> the world, expanding and diversifying participation, etc—need to be
> raised, if this is the framing of the whole event one can easily
> imagine a line of interventions from the floor that fixates on the
> limitations thereof.  Indeed, as a Geneva denizen who attends a lot of
> IG events and has done multiple WSIS Forum sessions, I would predict
> that the first hand to go up would be from a certain ex-WCIT maestro
> who would merrily problematize this.  The critique likely will be made
> irrespective of when and how such issues are addressed, but setting
> globalization as the overarching theme would provide a fatter target.
> Bear in mind too the wider context that’d help make it resonate,
> including the meme that’s been fostered in the local media and
> meetings about how ICANN will or should relocate to Switzerland.  So
> I’d think it would be better not to look like we’re trying to dispense
> kool aid and oversell—stick to the facts and be prepared to
> acknowledge limitations. 
> An option to consider: People may recall that we talked about whether
> the CCWGIG should submit an IGF workshop proposal.  While that
> conversation didn’t fully blossom, Olivier and Jordan did submit
> proposal No. 163 Multi-stakeholder Internet Governance -IANA
> Stewardship, described thusly:
> /The transition of Stewardship of the IANA Contract from the US to the
> Global Community is, arguably, this year's most significant change for
> the Internet. This session (which will not focus on the substance of
> the debate or on any transition proposal) will provide behind the
> scene insights from participants in the IANA Stewardship Transition;
> including:
> - how the bottom-up multistakeholder model has been used to make
> tough operational decisions that will affect the whole Internet
> - how initial positions held by stakeholders were examined
> - how these positions evolved in the course of discussions,
> both on-line and in face to face meetings
> - the lessons to be learnt for other Internet Governance issues from
> the experience of participants in this process?/
> /
> The session will include personal insights from community members
> who started out with very diverse, conflicting views which reflected
> the views of their Community, finally finding consensus in building
> together the best solution for the operational stability and
> continuity of the Internet.
> This session will seek to demonstrate the maturity of the
> multistakeholder model of governance; relevant - not least - in the
> forthcoming UNGA discussion on the WSIS+10 Review.
> Participants (in a roundtable format) will be drawn from across the
> Community including representatives from ISOC, the IETF and the RIRs.
> The Cross Community Working Group on Internet Governance is a formal
> body within the ICANN Community Structure drawing membership from
> nearly all of the different Constituency
> bodies. (https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=43984275)/
> Why not simply do the same thing at the WSIS Forum?  There are
> arguably several advantages:
> *It'd be the path of least resistance since we already have a text.
> *It'd be interesting to use the WF to preview/practice the IGF session
> (if it’s approved) and see how the discussion evolves
> similarly/differently in the two venues with their respective
> audiences.  I did this in 2011, organized parallel WF and IGF sessions
> on Institutional Choice in Global Communications Governance, and it
> proved to be rather instructive.
> *Bearing in mind the concerns raised above, focusing on the MS
> /process/ followed in the transition would be a propitious framing in
> the particular institutional/discursive context of this event.
> The line-up of speakers would be different from their IGF proposal
> because we’re presumably talking about a Panel of 4-6 people rather
> than a Roundtable with 16 participants, many of whom probably won’t be
> in Geneva in May.  Given the Monday submission deadline we’d need to
> do some quick poking around to see who will be here, but at a minimum
> I’d expect Nigel, Tarek, Marilyn and myself would be options.  The
> more MS and internationally diverse the panel is, the better. Nigel or
> Tarek could moderate…?
> Thoughts?
> Best
> Bill
>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com
>> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>> wrote:
>> Thanks for this Nigel. All - please spend some time over the week-end
>> thinking about this. 
>> I do think that the proposed topic is both of interest with everyone
>> in the wider Internet Governance space and also highly topical right
>> now. The only concern is that at the moment I cannot see any
>> "Globalisation of ICANN" when it comes to IANA Stewardship
>> transition. In fact, I cannot see any Globalisation of ICANN this
>> year that goes further than any plans that were already in place
>> prior to the IANA Stewardship transition proposals.
>> As a result, with such a title, are we just not setting the session
>> to be criticised openly, as in stepping into a shooting range?
>> Kindest regards,
>> Olivier
>> (own views)
>> On 24/04/2015 08:36, Nigel Hickson wrote:
>>> Colleagues 
>>> Good morning; on the CCWG-IG call yesterday we discussed the
>>> opportunity for the WG to be involved in a Workshop Session at the
>>> WSIS Forum hosted by ITU later May
>>> (see https://www.itu.int/net4/wsis/forum/2015/) 
>>> A placeholder for a Session was made and ITU have issued a slot
>>> for *Thursday; 28th April at 16.45 until
>>> 18.15* (see https://www.itu.int/net4/wsis/forum/2015/Agenda/Session/269)
>>> on “ICANN Contribution to implementation of WSIS Action Lines”. 
>>> We have a ability to amend / add to the description of this Workshop
>>> and on Call yesterday a suggestion was made to
>>> discuss *Globalisation of ICANN, including the IANA Stewardship
>>> Transition. * 
>>> On behalf of co-chairs would welcome views on scope and format
>>> of Workshop of Session.  We have a *deadline of close (23.00 UTC)
>>> on Monday 27th April* to submit to ITU (see form
>>> at http://www.itu.int/net4/wsis/forum/2015/Agenda/Organizers/Add)
>>> Best
>>> Nigel 
>>> From: Renate DeWulf <renate.dewulf at icann.org
>>> <mailto:renate.dewulf at icann.org>>
>>> Date: Thursday 23 April 2015 20:27
>>> To: "'ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org
>>> <mailto:%27ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org>'"
>>> <ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org
>>> <mailto:ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org>>
>>> Subject: [ccwg-internet-governance] NMI Consultation - deadline May 1st
>>> Dear all,
>>> Further to today’s CCWG IG call, Olivier has asked me to forward to
>>> your attention the link hereunder and has asked that you send in
>>> your comments to this mailing list prior to the deadline of May 1^st .
>>> http://ow.ly/LZ9Cd
>>> Best,
>>> Renate
>>> *Renate De Wulf*
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>> -- 
>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
>> http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
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