[ccwg-internet-governance] WSIS FORUM AT ITU; ICANN

Avri Doria avri at acm.org
Sat Apr 25 14:23:58 UTC 2015


seems like a good idea.  the timing is perfect.


On 25-Apr-15 05:03, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
> Dear Bill,
> thanks for your kind email - and interesting proposal. Let's see what
> everyone else thinks!
> Olivier
> On 25/04/2015 09:07, William Drake wrote:
>> Hi
>> Olivier raises a valid concern.  While the cluster of activities
>> often referred to as ICANN globalization—transition, offices/staff
>> around the world, expanding and diversifying participation, etc—need
>> to be raised, if this is the framing of the whole event one can
>> easily imagine a line of interventions from the floor that fixates on
>> the limitations thereof.  Indeed, as a Geneva denizen who attends a
>> lot of IG events and has done multiple WSIS Forum sessions, I would
>> predict that the first hand to go up would be from a certain ex-WCIT
>> maestro who would merrily problematize this.  The critique likely
>> will be made irrespective of when and how such issues are addressed,
>> but setting globalization as the overarching theme would provide a
>> fatter target. Bear in mind too the wider context that’d help make it
>> resonate, including the meme that’s been fostered in the local media
>> and meetings about how ICANN will or should relocate to Switzerland.
>>  So I’d think it would be better not to look like we’re trying to
>> dispense kool aid and oversell—stick to the facts and be prepared to
>> acknowledge limitations. 
>> An option to consider: People may recall that we talked about whether
>> the CCWGIG should submit an IGF workshop proposal.  While that
>> conversation didn’t fully blossom, Olivier and Jordan did submit
>> proposal No. 163 Multi-stakeholder Internet Governance -IANA
>> Stewardship, described thusly:
>> /The transition of Stewardship of the IANA Contract from the US to
>> the Global Community is, arguably, this year's most significant
>> change for the Internet. This session (which will not focus on the
>> substance of the debate or on any transition proposal) will provide
>> behind the scene insights from participants in the IANA
>> Stewardship Transition; including:
>> - how the bottom-up multistakeholder model has been used to make
>> tough operational decisions that will affect the whole Internet
>> - how initial positions held by stakeholders were examined
>> - how these positions evolved in the course of discussions,
>> both on-line and in face to face meetings
>> - the lessons to be learnt for other Internet Governance issues from
>> the experience of participants in this process?/
>> /
>> The session will include personal insights from community members
>> who started out with very diverse, conflicting views which reflected
>> the views of their Community, finally finding consensus in building
>> together the best solution for the operational stability and
>> continuity of the Internet.
>> This session will seek to demonstrate the maturity of the
>> multistakeholder model of governance; relevant - not least - in the
>> forthcoming UNGA discussion on the WSIS+10 Review.
>> Participants (in a roundtable format) will be drawn from across the
>> Community including representatives from ISOC, the IETF and the RIRs.
>> The Cross Community Working Group on Internet Governance is a formal
>> body within the ICANN Community Structure drawing membership from
>> nearly all of the different Constituency
>> bodies. (https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=43984275)/
>> Why not simply do the same thing at the WSIS Forum?  There are
>> arguably several advantages:
>> *It'd be the path of least resistance since we already have a text.
>> *It'd be interesting to use the WF to preview/practice the IGF
>> session (if it’s approved) and see how the discussion evolves
>> similarly/differently in the two venues with their respective
>> audiences.  I did this in 2011, organized parallel WF and IGF
>> sessions on Institutional Choice in Global Communications Governance,
>> and it proved to be rather instructive.
>> *Bearing in mind the concerns raised above, focusing on the MS
>> /process/ followed in the transition would be a propitious framing in
>> the particular institutional/discursive context of this event.
>> The line-up of speakers would be different from their IGF proposal
>> because we’re presumably talking about a Panel of 4-6 people rather
>> than a Roundtable with 16 participants, many of whom probably won’t
>> be in Geneva in May.  Given the Monday submission deadline we’d need
>> to do some quick poking around to see who will be here, but at a
>> minimum I’d expect Nigel, Tarek, Marilyn and myself would be options.
>>  The more MS and internationally diverse the panel is, the better.
>> Nigel or Tarek could moderate…?
>> Thoughts?
>> Best
>> Bill
>>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com
>>> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>> wrote:
>>> Thanks for this Nigel. All - please spend some time over the
>>> week-end thinking about this. 
>>> I do think that the proposed topic is both of interest with everyone
>>> in the wider Internet Governance space and also highly topical right
>>> now. The only concern is that at the moment I cannot see any
>>> "Globalisation of ICANN" when it comes to IANA Stewardship
>>> transition. In fact, I cannot see any Globalisation of ICANN this
>>> year that goes further than any plans that were already in place
>>> prior to the IANA Stewardship transition proposals.
>>> As a result, with such a title, are we just not setting the session
>>> to be criticised openly, as in stepping into a shooting range?
>>> Kindest regards,
>>> Olivier
>>> (own views)
>>> On 24/04/2015 08:36, Nigel Hickson wrote:
>>>> Colleagues 
>>>> Good morning; on the CCWG-IG call yesterday we discussed the
>>>> opportunity for the WG to be involved in a Workshop Session at the
>>>> WSIS Forum hosted by ITU later May
>>>> (see https://www.itu.int/net4/wsis/forum/2015/) 
>>>> A placeholder for a Session was made and ITU have issued a slot
>>>> for *Thursday; 28th April at 16.45 until
>>>> 18.15* (see https://www.itu.int/net4/wsis/forum/2015/Agenda/Session/269)
>>>> on “ICANN Contribution to implementation of WSIS Action Lines”. 
>>>> We have a ability to amend / add to the description of this
>>>> Workshop and on Call yesterday a suggestion was made to
>>>> discuss *Globalisation of ICANN, including the IANA Stewardship
>>>> Transition. * 
>>>> On behalf of co-chairs would welcome views on scope and format
>>>> of Workshop of Session.  We have a *deadline of close (23.00 UTC)
>>>> on Monday 27th April* to submit to ITU (see form
>>>> at http://www.itu.int/net4/wsis/forum/2015/Agenda/Organizers/Add)
>>>> Best
>>>> Nigel 
>>>> From: Renate DeWulf <renate.dewulf at icann.org
>>>> <mailto:renate.dewulf at icann.org>>
>>>> Date: Thursday 23 April 2015 20:27
>>>> To: "'ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org
>>>> <mailto:%27ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org>'"
>>>> <ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org
>>>> <mailto:ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org>>
>>>> Subject: [ccwg-internet-governance] NMI Consultation - deadline May 1st
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> Further to today’s CCWG IG call, Olivier has asked me to forward to
>>>> your attention the link hereunder and has asked that you send in
>>>> your comments to this mailing list prior to the deadline of May 1^st .
>>>> http://ow.ly/LZ9Cd
>>>> Best,
>>>> Renate
>>>> *Renate De Wulf*
>>>> Executive Assistant
>>>> ICANN 
>>>> Rond Point Schuman 6, 
>>>> 1st floor 
>>>> B-1040 Brussels 
>>>> Belgium 
>>>> Telephone: +32 2 894 7411 
>>>> Mobile: +32 479 40 07 44 
>>>> Fax: +32 2 280 1221
>>>> Skype: renate.dewulf 
>>>> Email: renate.dewulf at icann.org <mailto:renate.dewulf at icann.org>
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>> William J. Drake
>> International Fellow & Lecturer
>>   Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>>   University of Zurich, Switzerland
>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, 
>>   ICANN, www.ncuc.org <http://www.ncuc.org>
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