[ccwg-internet-governance] New NCUC Reps to the CCWG

William Drake william.drake at uzh.ch
Tue Aug 2 18:31:04 UTC 2016

Hi people

I need your kind assistance.  A couple months ago I told people I wanted to step down as a rep to the CCWIG.  I thought I was a NCUC rep, but then someone pointed me to https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=43984275 <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=43984275> where I am listed as NCSG Participant 1 and said no you are an NCSG rep (although the others from my group are listed as NCUC 2, 3 and 4…so who’s 1?).  I couldn’t remember for sure what we did two and half years ago but since NCUC people then had an inconclusive debate about whether we needed a rep and I’m busy with other stuff I simply didn’t think about it again.  But today Marilia as NCSG PC chair suddenly wrote to NCSG announcing my resignation and seeking to replace me as NCSG Participant 1, and I replied please do without thinking about the which hat issue until Carlos Gutierrez just asked.

So, sigh, I just dug through saved messages.  The closest I can find to relevance is the one I sent you guys in Jan. 14, below.  This would seem to indicate I was right in the first place and I’m a NCUC rep, in which case it’s not NCSG that should be replacing me.

Do you have any greater clarity of recall on this than I do?  


Bleary eyed Bill

> On Jan 29, 2014, at 14:01, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:
> Hello
> Greetings gents.  Yesterday the NCUC Executive Committee held its first meeting of the new year and inter alia approved a bunch of appointments to open positions.  Among these were new reps for the CCWG.  As I’ve noted from the outset, there’s a fairly serious imbalance among groups on the CCWG, with e.g. the BC having 4 reps and 1 observer, the IPC having 4 reps and 4 observers, the ISPs having 4 reps, the RySGs having four reps, and NCUC having….one, me.  No good.  I’d have preferred uniform and lower numbers but it is what it is until there’s agreement to change it via a charter or whatever, so for the time being we need to avail ourselves of the same rights as the others.
> Accordingly, NCUC hear by appoints the following additional representatives:
> Pranesh Prakash <pranesh at cis-india.org>  	Participant 2
> Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>	Participant 3
> Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>  Participant 4
> All three ladies have been told to join the mail list and given the details for tonight’s call, which I alas cannot attend.  So good timing.  I don’t know which of you is doing the editing, but they also need to be added to the list at
> https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?spaceKey=CPMMB&title=ICANN+Community+Preparation+for+the+Multistakeholder+Meeting+in+Brazil+Home
> Parenthetically, my understanding is that Avri now wants to be NCSG Observer 1, so that needs an updating as well.
> Thanks much and see you on the next one,
> Bill
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