[ccwg-internet-governance] New NCUC Reps to the CCWG

Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G. carlosraulg at gmail.com
Tue Aug 2 19:13:25 UTC 2016


This is a good point Greg. I think we are in the process of adapting a 
CCWG created BEFORE the CCWG rules were developed, to the new standards.

Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
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On 2 Aug 2016, at 13:10, Greg Shatan wrote:

> Are we still operating under the concept that everyone is "appointed" 
> to
> this group and that some are members and some are observers?
>
> Greg
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:31 PM, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi people
>>
>> I need your kind assistance.  A couple months ago I told people I 
>> wanted
>> to step down as a rep to the CCWIG.  I thought I was a NCUC rep, but 
>> then
>> someone pointed me to
>> https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=43984275 
>> where I
>> am listed as NCSG Participant 1 and said no you are an NCSG rep 
>> (although
>> the others from my group are listed as NCUC 2, 3 and 4…so who’s 
>> 1?).  I
>> couldn’t remember for sure what we did two and half years ago but 
>> since
>> NCUC people then had an inconclusive debate about whether we needed a 
>> rep
>> and I’m busy with other stuff I simply didn’t think about it 
>> again.  But
>> today Marilia as NCSG PC chair suddenly wrote to NCSG announcing my
>> resignation and seeking to replace me as NCSG Participant 1, and I 
>> replied
>> please do without thinking about the which hat issue until Carlos 
>> Gutierrez
>> just asked.
>>
>> So, sigh, I just dug through saved messages.  The closest I can find 
>> to
>> relevance is the one I sent you guys in Jan. 14, below.  This would 
>> seem to
>> indicate I was right in the first place and I’m a NCUC rep, in 
>> which case
>> it’s not NCSG that should be replacing me.
>>
>> Do you have any greater clarity of recall on this than I do?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Bleary eyed Bill
>>
>>
>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 14:01, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> Greetings gents.  Yesterday the NCUC Executive Committee held its 
>> first
>> meeting of the new year and inter alia approved a bunch of 
>> appointments to
>> open positions.  Among these were new reps for the CCWG.  As I’ve 
>> noted
>> from the outset, there’s a fairly serious imbalance among groups on 
>> the
>> CCWG, with e.g. the BC having 4 reps and 1 observer, the IPC having 4 
>> reps
>> and 4 observers, the ISPs having 4 reps, the RySGs having four reps, 
>> and
>> NCUC having….one, me.  No good.  I’d have preferred uniform and 
>> lower
>> numbers but it is what it is until there’s agreement to change it 
>> via a
>> charter or whatever, so for the time being we need to avail ourselves 
>> of
>> the same rights as the others.
>>
>> Accordingly, NCUC hear by appoints the following additional
>> representatives:
>>
>> Pranesh Prakash <pranesh at cis-india.org>   Participant 2
>> Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com> Participant 3
>> Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>  Participant 4
>>
>> All three ladies have been told to join the mail list and given the
>> details for tonight’s call, which I alas cannot attend.  So good 
>> timing.  I
>> don’t know which of you is doing the editing, but they also need to 
>> be
>> added to the list at
>>
>>
>> https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?spaceKey=CPMMB&title=ICANN+Community+Preparation+for+the+Multistakeholder+Meeting+in+Brazil+Home
>>
>> Parenthetically, my understanding is that Avri now wants to be NCSG
>> Observer 1, so that needs an updating as well.
>>
>> Thanks much and see you on the next one,
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> ***********************************************
>> William J. Drake
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>>  Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>>  University of Zurich, Switzerland
>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,
>>  ICANN, www.ncuc.org
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