[ccwg-internet-governance] New NCUC Reps to the CCWG

Rafik Dammak rafik.dammak at gmail.com
Wed Aug 3 07:26:47 UTC 2016


the charter is here
Last year, we sent a "no-objection" letter to the chartering organizations
on the interpretation regarding observers, the chartering organizations
approved that. Please find below the change:

*previous definition of membership. According to the current charter of the
CCWG IG membership of the CCWG includes members (appointed by the
chartering organisations, according to their own rules and procedures),
observers and experts. In this context observers are described as people
who:"In addition, all SOs and ACs may appoint Observers if permitted by and
in accordance with their own rules and procedures. Such Observers are
entitled to participate in WG deliberations on an equal footing with the
Members except for formal voting, when called for by the Co-Chairs of the
WG. Voting is limited only to Members. The number of Observers appointed by
each SO and AC shall not exceed the number of Members appointed by that SO
or AC."*

*The proposed changes.** In order to complete the transition to the fully
chartered CCWG IG, we seek your non objection on an interpretation of the
section on observers in the CCWG IG charter to mean: "In addition, the
CCWG-IG will be open to any interested person as a participant.
Participants may be from a chartering organization, from a stakeholder
group not represented in the CCWG-IG, or may be self-appointed.
Participants will be able to actively participate in and attend all CCWG-IG
meetings, work groups and sub-work groups. However, should there be a need
for a consensus call or decision, such consensus call or decision will be
limited to CCWG-IG members appointed by the chartering organizations”
(which is similar to the language in the charter of the CCWG-
Accountability) *

I also attached the letter we sent to the chartering organizations which
gives more background.



2016-08-03 6:11 GMT+09:00 Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>:

> HI Bill,
> As I recall, originally when we were a closed group there were members and
> observers. But as more people wanted to join we asked all present members
> their thoughts on opening up the membership and everyone agreed. As such
> the membership was opened to all.  I am not sure we ever officially changed
> it, but perhaps Olivier Leblond remembers it better.
> Best,
> Judith
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> On 8/2/2016 2:31 PM, William Drake wrote:
> Hi people
> I need your kind assistance.  A couple months ago I told people I wanted
> to step down as a rep to the CCWIG.  I thought I was a NCUC rep, but then
> someone pointed me to
> https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=43984275 where I
> am listed as NCSG Participant 1 and said no you are an NCSG rep (although
> the others from my group are listed as NCUC 2, 3 and 4…so who’s 1?).  I
> couldn’t remember for sure what we did two and half years ago but since
> NCUC people then had an inconclusive debate about whether we needed a rep
> and I’m busy with other stuff I simply didn’t think about it again.  But
> today Marilia as NCSG PC chair suddenly wrote to NCSG announcing my
> resignation and seeking to replace me as NCSG Participant 1, and I replied
> please do without thinking about the which hat issue until Carlos Gutierrez
> just asked.
> So, sigh, I just dug through saved messages.  The closest I can find to
> relevance is the one I sent you guys in Jan. 14, below.  This would seem to
> indicate I was right in the first place and I’m a NCUC rep, in which case
> it’s not NCSG that should be replacing me.
> Do you have any greater clarity of recall on this than I do?
> Thanks.
> Bleary eyed Bill
> On Jan 29, 2014, at 14:01, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:
> Hello
> Greetings gents.  Yesterday the NCUC Executive Committee held its first
> meeting of the new year and inter alia approved a bunch of appointments to
> open positions.  Among these were new reps for the CCWG.  As I’ve noted
> from the outset, there’s a fairly serious imbalance among groups on the
> CCWG, with e.g. the BC having 4 reps and 1 observer, the IPC having 4 reps
> and 4 observers, the ISPs having 4 reps, the RySGs having four reps, and
> NCUC having….one, me.  No good.  I’d have preferred uniform and lower
> numbers but it is what it is until there’s agreement to change it via a
> charter or whatever, so for the time being we need to avail ourselves of
> the same rights as the others.
> Accordingly, NCUC hear by appoints the following additional
> representatives:
> Pranesh Prakash <pranesh at cis-india.org>   Participant 2
> Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com> Participant 3
> Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>  Participant 4
> All three ladies have been told to join the mail list and given the
> details for tonight’s call, which I alas cannot attend.  So good timing.  I
> don’t know which of you is doing the editing, but they also need to be
> added to the list at
> https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?spaceKey=CPMMB&title=ICANN+Community+Preparation+for+the+Multistakeholder+Meeting+in+Brazil+Home
> Parenthetically, my understanding is that Avri now wants to be NCSG
> Observer 1, so that needs an updating as well.
> Thanks much and see you on the next one,
> Bill
> ***********************************************
> William J. Drake
> International Fellow & Lecturer
>  Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>  University of Zurich, Switzerland
> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,
>  ICANN, www.ncuc.org
> william.drake at uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com (lists),
>  www.williamdrake.org
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