[ccwg-internet-governance] Proposed Agenda for CCWG IG public meeting in Marrakech

Ken Stubbs kstubbs at afilias.info
Tue Feb 9 16:33:04 UTC 2016


Far too many acronyms in these threads  !!!

I have contacted Rosetta Stone to try to talk them into doing a series
on Internet Governance speak

Can't we "dial it down just a bit" so the average person can understand 
what your all saying.

Ken Stubbs

On 2/9/16 11:17, William Drake wrote:
> Hi Olivier
>
> I suggest we just skip the fragmentation topic as there’s not enough 
> time to say anything about the issues or developments elsewhere, some 
> of which you’ve indicated are off limits anyway.  As an alternative, 
> you could follow the now standard format of WSIS process talk followed 
> by a section on Misc. Everything Else.  In the latter context, people 
> might be interested to hear what was decided by the NMI CC in Madrid 
> just prior, as well as about the OECD ministerial and other settings.
>
> Best
>
> Bill
>
>
>> On Feb 9, 2016, at 17:02, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com 
>> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I think that some of the participants in the CCWG Internet Governance 
>> have managed to meet F2F in the NCPH inter-sessional. I have received 
>> some more input on the proposed Marrakech agendas which we'll discuss 
>> in today's call:
>> https://community.icann.org/x/ygWAAw
>>
>> Proposed Public Session in Marrakech (75 minutes total time)
>> Thursday morning @ 09.00
>>
>> 1. GAC High Level meeting takeaway (5 minutes)
>> [ This is just going to be a quick summary of the results of the GAC 
>> High Level meeting that took place on the Monday of the meeting. I 
>> have a response from the GAC Chair that a GAC Vice Chair will be able 
>> to deliver this. ]
>>
>> 2. The WSIS+10 process (30 minutes)
>> a. main outcomes
>> b. what to look out for in the future
>>
>> Proposed Panellists:
>> Hana AlHashimi - speaking about the SDGs
>> Peter Major - speaking about CSTD's Enhanced Cooperation
>> Chengetai Masango - speaking about IGF extension
>>
>> There then follows an open floor discussion for the remainder of this 
>> section time.
>>
>> 3. Debate about Fragmentation vs. Openness (20 minutes)
>> Inputs:
>> WEF - fragmentation paper (presented by Bill Drake)
>> OECD debate on this topic. Is a follow-up to ministerial meeting in 
>> Seoul.(who?)
>> Context in the names and numbers
>>
>> (note that The Wushen conference will not be discussed explicitly due 
>> to its sensitivity)
>>
>> We need to choose panellists for this second part of the session.
>>
>> F2F Working Group Session
>> Wednesday @ 10.45
>>
>> Please contribute the topics which you think we should discuss.
>> One of them will need to be:
>> WSIS Forum Workshop Preparation
>>
>> Kindest regards,
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>> On 02/02/2016 22:04, Marilyn Cade wrote:
>>> Let me see if I can work with all of us - to create an agenda -- the 
>>> CCWG IG also needs to focus on our own internal working and meeting.
>>>
>>> I do apologize, but this is really a priority to me and I seem to 
>>> have missed when we are scheduling that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> From:marilynscade at hotmail.com
>>> To:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com;ocl at gih.com
>>> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 09:55:44 -0500
>>> CC:ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org
>>> Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Proposed Agenda for CCWG IG 
>>> public meeting in Marrakech
>>>
>>> We really need to have both the IGF Secretariat and the WSIS Chair 
>>> on this panel, as this is the first in the trilogy of the ICANN 
>>> meetings
>>>
>>> So much has happened.  The ICANN community will benefit from a sort 
>>> of roadmap, and survey of the road ahead.
>>>
>>> We are not debating what is happening. In fact, that is simply NOT 
>>> what the CCWG-IG is about, but about our [as a group] providing 
>>> ideas, and almost guidance on what the community views as critically 
>>> important in how ICANN interacts in the larger IG ecosystem.
>>>
>>> BUT, to be credible, we need to do more work internally as a CCWG-IG.
>>>
>>> I regret that I missed the meeting during the ICANN in Ireland. I 
>>> was at the UN, as all of you are bored for me to remind!
>>>
>>> BUT, there are a few things.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I appreciate hearing that we want new faces, and note that in the 30 
>>> minutes about ecosystem, that could be a great place for that!
>>>
>>> Farzaneh, perhaps you can identify 2-3 'new faces' with expertise 
>>> that could make 3-4 minute interventions.  And, perhaps we could 
>>> strive to invite such responses from the floor. I recall that so 
>>> often in these sessions, we look at the microphone line and it is 
>>> empty. or has 2 people. THAT is not a welcomed sight to me. It is 
>>> not that we, the organizers deny receptivity but that standing up is 
>>> challening.
>>>
>>> Let's think about a different approach. We can set up different 
>>> mikes, as I made sure that was done at the WSIS+10 session at the 
>>> IGF! [modeled after NetMundial, by the way. ] Then, different 
>>> CCWG-IG members can brief and support engagement and facilitate 
>>> awareness about the session, and we can have a standing line of 
>>> [goal] 5+ [+] speakers per stakeholder group!
>>>
>>> I love it
>>>
>>> this week, I will see Farzaneh at the CSG Intercessional. Perhaps we 
>>> can strategize on audience engagement approaches.
>>>
>>> that means probably that we need to develop what I will call 
>>> 'guiding questions'.
>>>
>>> Now, a question: should we invite one of the UN co facilitators/ or 
>>> their staff to join us for this session? I would love that and offer 
>>> to reach out to them.
>>>
>>>
>>> After all, we have the Net Mundial as a role model and the WSIS+10 
>>> event at IGF. 3 minutes strictly enforced got a lot of 'stuff said', 
>>> so to speak.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 11:06:10 +0100
>>> Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Proposed Agenda for CCWG IG 
>>> public meeting in Marrakech
>>> From:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
>>> To:ocl at gih.com
>>> CC:ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org;marilynscade at hotmail.com
>>>
>>> Olivier
>>>
>>> Sorry I didn't attend all the preparatory meetings so I am not sure 
>>> about a couple of things .
>>> Why are we having a GAC high level meeting takeaway in our ig 
>>> session?  Can we be at least more specific how they fit? Is the 
>>> takeaway about wsis etc?
>>>
>>> I still don't  know where we are putting igf sec and cstd.
>>> We have been always struggling to put new faces on the panel.  Cant 
>>> some participants that have become active in this field brief us on 
>>> issues?
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Farzaneh
>>>
>>> On 1 Feb 2016 21:36, "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <ocl at gih.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Dear Marilyn,
>>>
>>>     On 30/01/2016 18:12, Marilyn Cade wrote:
>>>     > Might I again insist that we invite Chengetai Masango, IGF
>>>     Secretariat
>>>     > and Peter Major, CSTD Chair to this session. That would fit
>>>     into 1,2.3
>>>
>>>     I personally think this is a good idea. They would definitely have
>>>     things to say about all of the topics.
>>>     All - any other suggestions?
>>>     Any feedback on the agenda itself?
>>>
>>>     Reminder: (with the GAC round-up brought to the beginning of the
>>>     meeting
>>>     since it is a short item)
>>>
>>>     Proposed Public Session in Marrakech (75 minutes total time)
>>>
>>>     1. GAC High Level meeting takeaway (5 minutes)
>>>
>>>     2. The WSIS+10 process (20 minutes)
>>>     a. main outcomes
>>>     b. what to look out for in the future
>>>
>>>     3. Debate about Fragmentation vs. Openness (30 minutes)
>>>
>>>     Inputs:
>>>     WEF - fragmentation paper
>>>     OECD debate on this topic. Is a follow-up to ministerial meeting
>>>     in Seoul.
>>>     Context in the names and numbers
>>>     The Wushen conference
>>>
>>>     --- end of agenda
>>>
>>>
>>>     Kindest regards,
>>>
>>>     Olivier
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>> -- 
>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
>> http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
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