[ccwg-internet-governance] Proposed Agenda for CCWG IG public meeting in Marrakech

Marilyn Cade marilynscade at hotmail.com
Tue Feb 9 16:41:16 UTC 2016


YOU are fabulous to make that comment, Ken! 
Of course, you are right, we are all geek-speaking-IG, sorry about that. Will do better on the call, I promise.


From: kstubbs at afilias.info
To: wjdrake at gmail.com; ocl at gih.com
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 11:33:04 -0500
CC: ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org
Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Proposed Agenda for CCWG IG public meeting in Marrakech


  
    
  
  
    Far too many acronyms in these threads  !!!

      

      I have contacted Rosetta Stone to try to talk them into doing a
      series

      on Internet Governance speak

      

      Can't we "dial it down just a bit" so the average person can
      understand what your all saying.

      

      Ken Stubbs

    

    On 2/9/16 11:17, William Drake wrote:

    
    
      
      Hi Olivier
      

      
      I suggest we just skip the fragmentation topic as
        there’s not enough time to say anything about the issues or
        developments elsewhere, some of which you’ve indicated are off
        limits anyway.  As an alternative, you could follow the now
        standard format of WSIS process talk followed by a section on
        Misc. Everything Else.  In the latter context, people might be
        interested to hear what was decided by the NMI CC in Madrid just
        prior, as well as about the OECD ministerial and other settings.
      

      
      Best
      

      
      Bill
      

      
      

      
      
        
          On Feb 9, 2016, at 17:02, Olivier MJ
            Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
            wrote:
          
          Hello everyone,
            
            I think that some of the participants in the CCWG
              Internet Governance have managed to meet F2F in the NCPH
              inter-sessional. I have received some more input on the
              proposed Marrakech agendas which we'll discuss in today's
              call:
            https://community.icann.org/x/ygWAAw
            
            Proposed Public Session in Marrakech (75 minutes
              total time)
            Thursday morning @ 09.00
            
            1. GAC High Level meeting takeaway (5 minutes)
            [ This is just going to be a quick summary of the
              results of the GAC High Level meeting that took place on
              the Monday of the meeting. I have a response from the GAC
              Chair that a GAC Vice Chair will be able to deliver this.
              ]
            
            2. The WSIS+10 process (30 minutes)
            a. main outcomes
            b. what to look out for in the future
            
            Proposed Panellists:
            Hana AlHashimi - speaking about the SDGs
            Peter Major - speaking about CSTD's Enhanced
              Cooperation
            Chengetai Masango - speaking about IGF extension
            
            There then follows an open floor discussion for
              the remainder of this section time.
            
            3. Debate about Fragmentation vs. Openness (20
              minutes)
            Inputs:
            WEF - fragmentation paper (presented by Bill
              Drake)
            OECD debate on this topic. Is a follow-up to
              ministerial meeting in Seoul.(who?)
            Context in the names and numbers
            
            (note that The Wushen conference will not be
              discussed explicitly due to its sensitivity)
            
            We need to choose panellists for this second part
              of the session.
            
            F2F Working Group Session
            Wednesday @ 10.45
            
            Please contribute the topics which you think we
              should discuss.
            One of them will need to be:
            WSIS Forum Workshop Preparation
            
            Kindest regards,
            
            Olivier
            
            On 02/02/2016 22:04, Marilyn Cade
              wrote:

            
            
              Let me see if I can work with all
                of us - to create an agenda -- the CCWG IG also needs to
                focus on our own internal working and meeting. 
                

                
                I do apologize, but this is really a
                  priority to me and I seem to have missed when we are
                  scheduling that.
                

                
                

                  

                    
                      From: marilynscade at hotmail.com

                      To: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com; ocl at gih.com

                      Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 09:55:44 -0500

                      CC: ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org

                      Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Proposed
                      Agenda for CCWG IG public meeting in Marrakech

                      

                      We really need to have
                        both the IGF Secretariat and the WSIS Chair on
                        this panel, as this is the first in the trilogy
                        of the ICANN meetings
                        

                        
                        So much has happened.  The ICANN
                          community will benefit from a sort of roadmap,
                          and survey of the road ahead.
                        

                        
                        We are not debating what is
                          happening. In fact, that is simply NOT what
                          the CCWG-IG is about, but about our [as a
                          group] providing ideas, and almost guidance on
                          what the community views as critically
                          important in how ICANN interacts in the larger
                          IG ecosystem.
                        

                        
                        BUT, to be credible, we need to do
                          more work internally as a CCWG-IG.
                        

                        
                        I regret that I missed the meeting
                          during the ICANN in Ireland. I was at the UN,
                          as all of you are bored for me to remind! 
                        

                        
                        BUT, there are a few things. 
                        

                        
                        

                        
                        

                        
                        I appreciate hearing that we want
                          new faces, and note that in the 30 minutes
                          about ecosystem, that could be a great place
                          for that! 
                        

                        
                        Farzaneh, perhaps you can identify
                          2-3 'new faces' with expertise that could make
                          3-4 minute interventions.  And, perhaps we
                          could strive to invite such responses from the
                          floor. I recall that so often in these
                          sessions, we look at the microphone line and
                          it is empty. or has 2 people. THAT is not a
                          welcomed sight to me. It is not that we, the
                          organizers deny receptivity but that standing
                          up is challening. 
                        

                        
                        Let's think about a different
                          approach. We can set up different mikes, as I
                          made sure that was done at the WSIS+10 session
                          at the IGF! [modeled after NetMundial, by the
                          way. ] Then, different CCWG-IG members can
                          brief and support engagement and facilitate
                          awareness about the session, and we can have a
                          standing line of [goal] 5+ [+] speakers per
                          stakeholder group! 
                        

                        
                        I love it
                        

                        
                        this week, I will see Farzaneh at
                          the CSG Intercessional. Perhaps we can
                          strategize on audience engagement approaches. 
                        

                        
                        that means probably that we need
                          to develop what I will call 'guiding
                          questions'. 
                        

                        
                        Now, a question: should we invite
                          one of the UN co facilitators/ or their staff
                          to join us for this session? I would love that
                          and offer to reach out to them.
                        

                        
                        

                        
                        After all, we have the Net Mundial
                          as a role model and the WSIS+10 event at IGF.
                          3 minutes strictly enforced got a lot of
                          'stuff said', so to speak.
                        

                        
                        

                          

                            
                              Date:
                              Tue, 2 Feb 2016 11:06:10 +0100

                              Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance]
                              Proposed Agenda for CCWG IG public meeting
                              in Marrakech

                              From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com

                              To: ocl at gih.com

                              CC: ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org; marilynscade at hotmail.com

                              

                              Olivier 
                              Sorry I didn't
                                attend all the preparatory meetings so I
                                am not sure about a couple of things . 

                                Why are we having a GAC high level
                                meeting takeaway in our ig session?  Can
                                we be at least more specific how they
                                fit? Is the takeaway about wsis etc? 
                              I still don't  know
                                where we are putting igf sec and cstd. 

                                We have been always struggling to put
                                new faces on the panel.  Cant some
                                participants that have become active in
                                this field brief us on issues? 
                              Best 
                              Farzaneh
                              On 1 Feb 2016
                                21:36, "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <ocl at gih.com>
                                wrote:

                                Dear Marilyn,

                                  

                                  On 30/01/2016 18:12, Marilyn Cade
                                  wrote:

                                  > Might I again insist that we
                                  invite Chengetai Masango, IGF
                                  Secretariat

                                  > and Peter Major, CSTD Chair to
                                  this session. That would fit into
                                  1,2.3

                                  

                                  I personally think this is a good
                                  idea. They would definitely have

                                  things to say about all of the topics.

                                  All - any other suggestions?

                                  Any feedback on the agenda itself?

                                  

                                  Reminder: (with the GAC round-up
                                  brought to the beginning of the
                                  meeting

                                  since it is a short item)

                                  

                                  Proposed Public Session in Marrakech
                                  (75 minutes total time)

                                  

                                  1. GAC High Level meeting takeaway (5
                                  minutes)

                                  

                                  2. The WSIS+10 process (20 minutes)

                                  a. main outcomes

                                  b. what to look out for in the future

                                  

                                  3. Debate about Fragmentation vs.
                                  Openness (30 minutes)

                                  

                                  Inputs:

                                  WEF - fragmentation paper

                                  OECD debate on this topic. Is a
                                  follow-up to ministerial meeting in
                                  Seoul.

                                  Context in the names and numbers

                                  The Wushen conference

                                  

                                  --- end of agenda

                                  

                                  

                                  Kindest regards,

                                  

                                  Olivier

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