[ccwg-internet-governance] Proposed Agenda for CCWG IG public meeting in Marrakech

Marilyn Cade marilynscade at hotmail.com
Tue Feb 9 16:50:24 UTC 2016


I am a little confused, as other speakers will be from other SG groups. We are after all are planning this session, as a multi stakeholder CCWG. right?

Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 17:49:20 +0100
Subject: RE: [ccwg-internet-governance] Proposed Agenda for CCWG IG public meeting in Marrakech
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
To: marilynscade at hotmail.com
CC: ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org; ocl at gih.com

Yes I know there are three Icann meetings and this is the first in trilogy but I still don't understand why we need to have UN staff to speak during the first one.  
Yes Marilyn I know that they talk about ig in GAC.  It has to be clarified that is why we invited them.  I am not going to make it more complicated but if you have GAC talk about ig why not other stakeholder groups?!.  Not a point of discussion but I think it's odd to have GAC in the agenda with no explanation.  
On 9 Feb 2016 17:43, "Marilyn Cade" <marilynscade at hotmail.com> wrote:



I proposed to have the GAC Chair also join.  And of course, they do talk about IG issues in the GAC.
M

Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 17:41:16 +0100
Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Proposed Agenda for CCWG IG public meeting in Marrakech
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
To: ocl at gih.com
CC: ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org; marilynscade at hotmail.com

Hi olivier 
I didn't receive an answer to my question why do we have GAC brief here? We should be clear that they will talk about ig issues. 
Now we have prolonged the very interesting WSIS +10 agenda item to 30 minutes?  I really don't think there is much to talk about for 30 minutes other than repetion of the past.  I suggest shortening it by 10 to 15 minutes.  Then have the fragmentation and then open mic.  
On 9 Feb 2016 17:02, "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <ocl at gih.com> wrote:

  
    
  
  
    Hello everyone,

    

    I think that some of the participants in the CCWG Internet
    Governance have managed to meet F2F in the NCPH inter-sessional. I
    have received some more input on the proposed Marrakech agendas
    which we'll discuss in today's call:

    https://community.icann.org/x/ygWAAw

    

    Proposed Public Session in Marrakech (75 minutes total time)

    Thursday morning @ 09.00

    

    1. GAC High Level meeting takeaway (5 minutes)

    [ This is just going to be a quick summary of the results of the GAC
    High Level meeting that took place on the Monday of the meeting. I
    have a response from the GAC Chair that a GAC Vice Chair will be
    able to deliver this. ]

    

    2. The WSIS+10 process (30 minutes)

    a. main outcomes

    b. what to look out for in the future

    

    Proposed Panellists:

    Hana AlHashimi - speaking about the SDGs

    Peter Major - speaking about CSTD's Enhanced Cooperation

    Chengetai Masango - speaking about IGF extension

    

    There then follows an open floor discussion for the remainder of
    this section time.

    

    3. Debate about Fragmentation vs. Openness (20 minutes)

    Inputs:

    WEF - fragmentation paper (presented by Bill Drake)

    OECD debate on this topic. Is a follow-up to ministerial meeting in
    Seoul.(who?)

    Context in the names and numbers

    

    (note that The Wushen conference will not be discussed explicitly
    due to its sensitivity)

    

    We need to choose panellists for this second part of the session.

    

    F2F Working Group Session

    Wednesday @ 10.45

    

    Please contribute the topics which you think we should discuss.

    One of them will need to be:

    WSIS Forum Workshop Preparation

    

    Kindest regards,

    

    Olivier

    

    On 02/02/2016 22:04, Marilyn Cade
      wrote:

    
    
      
      Let me see if I can work with all of us - to create
        an agenda -- the CCWG IG also needs to focus on our own internal
        working and meeting. 
        

        
        I do apologize, but this is really a priority to me and I
          seem to have missed when we are scheduling that.
        

        
        

          

            
              From: marilynscade at hotmail.com

              To: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com; ocl at gih.com

              Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 09:55:44 -0500

              CC: ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org

              Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Proposed Agenda
              for CCWG IG public meeting in Marrakech

              

              
              We really need to have both the IGF
                Secretariat and the WSIS Chair on this panel, as this is
                the first in the trilogy of the ICANN meetings
                

                
                So much has happened.  The ICANN community will
                  benefit from a sort of roadmap, and survey of the road
                  ahead.
                

                
                We are not debating what is happening. In fact,
                  that is simply NOT what the CCWG-IG is about, but
                  about our [as a group] providing ideas, and almost
                  guidance on what the community views as critically
                  important in how ICANN interacts in the larger IG
                  ecosystem.
                

                
                BUT, to be credible, we need to do more work
                  internally as a CCWG-IG.
                

                
                I regret that I missed the meeting during the ICANN
                  in Ireland. I was at the UN, as all of you are bored
                  for me to remind! 
                

                
                BUT, there are a few things. 
                

                
                

                
                

                
                I appreciate hearing that we want new faces, and
                  note that in the 30 minutes about ecosystem, that
                  could be a great place for that! 
                

                
                Farzaneh, perhaps you can identify 2-3 'new faces'
                  with expertise that could make 3-4 minute
                  interventions.  And, perhaps we could strive to invite
                  such responses from the floor. I recall that so often
                  in these sessions, we look at the microphone line and
                  it is empty. or has 2 people. THAT is not a welcomed
                  sight to me. It is not that we, the organizers deny
                  receptivity but that standing up is challening. 
                

                
                Let's think about a different approach. We can set
                  up different mikes, as I made sure that was done at
                  the WSIS+10 session at the IGF! [modeled after
                  NetMundial, by the way. ] Then, different CCWG-IG
                  members can brief and support engagement and
                  facilitate awareness about the session, and we can
                  have a standing line of [goal] 5+ [+] speakers per
                  stakeholder group! 
                

                
                I love it
                

                
                this week, I will see Farzaneh at the CSG
                  Intercessional. Perhaps we can strategize on audience
                  engagement approaches. 
                

                
                that means probably that we need to develop what I
                  will call 'guiding questions'. 
                

                
                Now, a question: should we invite one of the UN co
                  facilitators/ or their staff to join us for this
                  session? I would love that and offer to reach out to
                  them.
                

                
                

                
                After all, we have the Net Mundial as a role model
                  and the WSIS+10 event at IGF. 3 minutes strictly
                  enforced got a lot of 'stuff said', so to speak.
                

                
                

                  

                    
                      Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016
                      11:06:10 +0100

                      Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Proposed
                      Agenda for CCWG IG public meeting in Marrakech

                      From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com

                      To: ocl at gih.com

                      CC: ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org;
                      marilynscade at hotmail.com

                      

                      Olivier 
                      Sorry I didn't attend all the
                        preparatory meetings so I am not sure about a
                        couple of things . 

                        Why are we having a GAC high level meeting
                        takeaway in our ig session?  Can we be at least
                        more specific how they fit? Is the takeaway
                        about wsis etc? 
                      I still don't  know where we are
                        putting igf sec and cstd. 

                        We have been always struggling to put new faces
                        on the panel.  Cant some participants that have
                        become active in this field brief us on issues? 
                      
                      Best 
                      Farzaneh
                      On 1 Feb 2016 21:36,
                        "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <ocl at gih.com>
                        wrote:

                        Dear Marilyn,

                          

                          On 30/01/2016 18:12, Marilyn Cade wrote:

                          > Might I again insist that we invite
                          Chengetai Masango, IGF Secretariat

                          > and Peter Major, CSTD Chair to this
                          session. That would fit into 1,2.3

                          

                          I personally think this is a good idea. They
                          would definitely have

                          things to say about all of the topics.

                          All - any other suggestions?

                          Any feedback on the agenda itself?

                          

                          Reminder: (with the GAC round-up brought to
                          the beginning of the meeting

                          since it is a short item)

                          

                          Proposed Public Session in Marrakech (75
                          minutes total time)

                          

                          1. GAC High Level meeting takeaway (5 minutes)

                          

                          2. The WSIS+10 process (20 minutes)

                          a. main outcomes

                          b. what to look out for in the future

                          

                          3. Debate about Fragmentation vs. Openness (30
                          minutes)

                          

                          Inputs:

                          WEF - fragmentation paper

                          OECD debate on this topic. Is a follow-up to
                          ministerial meeting in Seoul.

                          Context in the names and numbers

                          The Wushen conference

                          

                          --- end of agenda

                          

                          

                          Kindest regards,

                          

                          Olivier

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