[ccwg-internet-governance] CCWG-IG session going on now

Marilyn Cade marilynscade at hotmail.com
Mon Mar 19 21:04:05 UTC 2018

The WSIS Forum is a sort of strange setting, and we were somewhat challenged on being on Day 1 as for instance although Joanna was invited, she was traveling, so we missed her in person. She was so great to do the PP and the audio track, and we will post both to the website, so she speaks in her own words.[Thanks, Joanna!] and also Tatiana, for being with us remotely which is never much fun, but it seemed to work well logistically, even if we missed some dynamics.

However, still, we had somewhere between 25-30 attendees, and in the audience several who told us later:

-never attended ICANN

-first WSIS Forum

-one who thinks the ITU is the answer and should take over ICANN and IGF and "oversee" any IG discussions at WIPO, UNESCO, UNCTAD.

Most of the attendees in the room are not indeed "usual suspects",. so they don't use the remote connection if they are attending.

I was not able to focus on the stream, or the remote connect and also chair the meeting, so apologies if I missed some comments that could have been incorporated into the discussion.

However, I am curious and need to understand the reference to "usual suspects".

I am not sure that I see that Tatiana and Joanna are usual suspects as speakers, nor Anja Gengo, nor Torbjorn/UNTAD, or Xianhong Hu from UNESCO, or Preetam, ITU.

Are we saying that is one is an expert, they should not participate in an event where experience and expertise is needed, and no one else is willing to travel and self fund?  We called on those who could be there.

I regret if anyone who wanted to join as a speaker was not able to, but we probably could not have managed more than one speaker and been able to take questions.

WSIS Forum. indeed, as Farzi said much earlier, has a lot of governments attending but not with the usual suspects of
GAC or MAG attendees. Probably at least 35-40 % of our attendees were from governments and so could benefit ... One of the IGO speakers told me that someone  asked if that govt is active in their IGO, as they thought they only attended ITU and UN. That person learned [from an audience /participant] the their country has an NRI; they are engaged in UNCTAD and UNESCO, and the ICANN GAC.

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Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 12:59 PM
To: farzaneh badii; CCWG
Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] CCWG-IG session going on now

Hello all,

thanks for pointing the session out. I gather there are several people on the stream, but only a handful on the Adobe Connect. Both are linked from the agenda. I'd say that the participants, apart from three, are not the usual suspected.
Kindest regards,


On 19/03/2018 16:35, farzaneh badii wrote:
I have not seen any mention of this meeting on the list today. https://www.itu.int/net4/wsis/forum/2018/Pages/Agenda/Session/196#intro<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.itu.int%2Fnet4%2Fwsis%2Fforum%2F2018%2FPages%2FAgenda%2FSession%2F196%23intro&data=02%7C01%7C%7C058cd2168748499e2b0608d58dbade27%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570756082818391&sdata=rnwWSvOSeT%2F7enxi7ABErPoTto2J3Hp3q%2BSiBngLm90%3D&reserved=0>

Looks like a good session but as always we have the usual suspect on the panel. I am at fault cause I could not suggest anyone else. Does not mean we should stop improving.


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