[ccwg-internet-governance] CCWG-IG session going on now

Dr. Tatiana Tropina t.tropina at mpicc.de
Mon Mar 19 21:30:19 UTC 2018

Dear all,

I am one of the usual suspects - admitting it! Mea culpa - it didn't
dawn on me that it's the third CCWG-IG organised session that am taking
part in (2016 was on site, 2017 and this year - remotely). It's just
because I spoke on different topics - ICANN accountability in 2016,
capacity building at NCUC in 2017 and cybersecurity this year - this
continuity didn't come to my mind. Sorry for that. I will resign from
any speaking offers next year!

However, I think it was an interesting session, I didn't expect that
remote intervention could provoke some rather interesting and
controversial response from the floor. Thanks to all who organised the
discussion and took part in it. It was interesting and thought
provoking. I can't assess the dynamics on site but hope it was good and
you had a good feedback and follow up.



On 19/03/18 22:04, Marilyn Cade wrote:
> The WSIS Forum is a sort of strange setting, and we were somewhat
> challenged on being on Day 1 as for instance although Joanna was
> invited, she was traveling, so we missed her in person. She was so
> great to do the PP and the audio track, and we will post both to the
> website, so she speaks in her own words.[Thanks, Joanna!] and also
> Tatiana, for being with us remotely which is never much fun, but it
> seemed to work well logistically, even if we missed some dynamics.
> However, still, we had somewhere between 25-30 attendees, and in the
> audience several who told us later:
> -never attended ICANN
> -first WSIS Forum
> -one who thinks the ITU is the answer and should take over ICANN and
> IGF and "oversee" any IG discussions at WIPO, UNESCO, UNCTAD. 
> Most of the attendees in the room are not indeed "usual suspects",. so
> they don't use the remote connection if they are attending. 
> I was not able to focus on the stream, or the remote connect and also
> chair the meeting, so apologies if I missed some comments that could
> have been incorporated into the discussion.
> However, I am curious and need to understand the reference to "usual
> suspects".  
> I am not sure that I see that Tatiana and Joanna are usual suspects as
> speakers, nor Anja Gengo, nor Torbjorn/UNTAD, or Xianhong Hu from
> UNESCO, or Preetam, ITU. 
> Are we saying that is one is an expert, they should not participate in
> an event where experience and expertise is needed, and no one else is
> willing to travel and self fund?  We called on those who could be there.
> I regret if anyone who wanted to join as a speaker was not able to,
> but we probably could not have managed more than one speaker and been
> able to take questions. 
> WSIS Forum. indeed, as Farzi said much earlier, has a lot of
> governments attending but not with the usual suspects of 
> GAC or MAG attendees. Probably at least 35-40 % of our attendees were
> from governments and so could benefit ... One of the IGO speakers told
> me that someone  asked if that govt is active in their IGO, as they
> thought they only attended ITU and UN. That person learned [from an
> audience /participant] the their country has an NRI; they are engaged
> in UNCTAD and UNESCO, and the ICANN GAC.  
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> Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 19, 2018 12:59 PM
> *To:* farzaneh badii; CCWG
> *Subject:* Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] CCWG-IG session going on now
> Hello all,
> thanks for pointing the session out. I gather there are several people
> on the stream, but only a handful on the Adobe Connect. Both are
> linked from the agenda. I'd say that the participants, apart from
> three, are not the usual suspected.
> Kindest regards,
> Olivier
> On 19/03/2018 16:35, farzaneh badii wrote:
>> I have not seen any mention of this meeting on the list
>> today. https://www.itu.int/net4/wsis/forum/2018/Pages/Agenda/Session/196#intro
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>> Looks like a good session but as always we have the usual suspect on
>> the panel. I am at fault cause I could not suggest anyone else. Does
>> not mean we should stop improving.
>> Farzaneh
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