[ccwg-internet-governance] CCWG-IG session going on now

Greg Shatan gregshatanipc at gmail.com
Tue Mar 20 02:16:57 UTC 2018


Amazing how quickly one can go from "fresh new face" to "usual suspect"!
But don't worry, you're still a more unusual suspect than most....

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 5:30 PM, Dr. Tatiana Tropina <t.tropina at mpicc.de>
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
>
> I am one of the usual suspects - admitting it! Mea culpa - it didn't dawn
> on me that it's the third CCWG-IG organised session that am taking part in
> (2016 was on site, 2017 and this year - remotely). It's just because I
> spoke on different topics - ICANN accountability in 2016, capacity building
> at NCUC in 2017 and cybersecurity this year - this continuity didn't come
> to my mind. Sorry for that. I will resign from any speaking offers next
> year!
>
> However, I think it was an interesting session, I didn't expect that
> remote intervention could provoke some rather interesting and controversial
> response from the floor. Thanks to all who organised the discussion and
> took part in it. It was interesting and thought provoking. I can't assess
> the dynamics on site but hope it was good and you had a good feedback and
> follow up.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tanya
>
> On 19/03/18 22:04, Marilyn Cade wrote:
>
> The WSIS Forum is a sort of strange setting, and we were somewhat
> challenged on being on Day 1 as for instance although Joanna was invited,
> she was traveling, so we missed her in person. She was so great to do the
> PP and the audio track, and we will post both to the website, so she speaks
> in her own words.[Thanks, Joanna!] and also Tatiana, for being with us
> remotely which is never much fun, but it seemed to work well logistically,
> even if we missed some dynamics.
>
>
> However, still, we had somewhere between 25-30 attendees, and in the
> audience several who told us later:
>
> -never attended ICANN
>
> -first WSIS Forum
>
> -one who thinks the ITU is the answer and should take over ICANN and IGF
> and "oversee" any IG discussions at WIPO, UNESCO, UNCTAD.
>
>
> Most of the attendees in the room are not indeed "usual suspects",. so
> they don't use the remote connection if they are attending.
>
>
> I was not able to focus on the stream, or the remote connect and also
> chair the meeting, so apologies if I missed some comments that could have
> been incorporated into the discussion.
>
>
> However, I am curious and need to understand the reference to "usual
> suspects".
>
>
> I am not sure that I see that Tatiana and Joanna are usual suspects as
> speakers, nor Anja Gengo, nor Torbjorn/UNTAD, or Xianhong Hu from UNESCO,
> or Preetam, ITU.
>
> Are we saying that is one is an expert, they should not participate in an
> event where experience and expertise is needed, and no one else is willing
> to travel and self fund?  We called on those who could be there.
>
> I regret if anyone who wanted to join as a speaker was not able to, but we
> probably could not have managed more than one speaker and been able to take
> questions.
>
> WSIS Forum. indeed, as Farzi said much earlier, has a lot of governments
> attending but not with the usual suspects of
> GAC or MAG attendees. Probably at least 35-40 % of our attendees were from
> governments and so could benefit ... One of the IGO speakers told me that
> someone  asked if that govt is active in their IGO, as they thought they
> only attended ITU and UN. That person learned [from an audience
> /participant] the their country has an NRI; they are engaged in UNCTAD and
> UNESCO, and the ICANN GAC.
>
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> *From:* ccwg-internet-governance <ccwg-internet-governance-
> bounces at icann.org> <ccwg-internet-governance-bounces at icann.org> on behalf
> of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> <ocl at gih.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 19, 2018 12:59 PM
> *To:* farzaneh badii; CCWG
> *Subject:* Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] CCWG-IG session going on now
>
> Hello all,
>
> thanks for pointing the session out. I gather there are several people on
> the stream, but only a handful on the Adobe Connect. Both are linked from
> the agenda. I'd say that the participants, apart from three, are not the
> usual suspected.
> Kindest regards,
>
> Olivier
>
> On 19/03/2018 16:35, farzaneh badii wrote:
>
> I have not seen any mention of this meeting on the list today.
> https://www.itu.int/net4/wsis/forum/2018/Pages/Agenda/Session/196#intro
> <https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.itu.int%2Fnet4%2Fwsis%2Fforum%2F2018%2FPages%2FAgenda%2FSession%2F196%23intro&data=02%7C01%7C%7C058cd2168748499e2b0608d58dbade27%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636570756082818391&sdata=rnwWSvOSeT%2F7enxi7ABErPoTto2J3Hp3q%2BSiBngLm90%3D&reserved=0>
>
>
> Looks like a good session but as always we have the usual suspect on the
> panel. I am at fault cause I could not suggest anyone else. Does not mean
> we should stop improving.
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
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