[ccwg-internet-governance] Day 1 update from the WSIS Forum

Marilyn Cade marilynscade at hotmail.com
Wed Mar 21 11:12:07 UTC 2018


Bill, of course, I fully agree with you.


In fact, I have attended not only PPs, but WTSAs, WTPFs, WTDCs, etc. etc.


NO one except member states have rights in such sessions, although sector members are often highly influential in certain places, especially if they bring in subject matter experts, join country delegations, etc.


For one PP, I attended as a sector member and believe me, that is a lonely experience at a PP, as all the real discussions take place within country delegations. On the other hand, I had a lot of time to work and talk with other countries that didn't have subject matter experts, and I made a lot of friends in many countries just by being an Internet expert who could explain how the Internet works and why business did not think the ITU was the "right" home.


BUT, ultimately, the UN bodies are member state creatures.  Always important to keep in mind, as you note.



I wasn't trying to suggest anything otherwise.


S


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To: Marilyn Cade
Cc: Olivier Crepin-Leblond; CCWG
Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Day 1 update from the WSIS Forum

Yes but there are very substantial differences between the rights of Member States on the one hand and Sector Members, Associates and Academia on the other, and these get creatively fudged in PR statements in order to portray the intergovernmental organization as a multistakeholder organization, depending on the audience.  See e.g. Articles 2 and 3 of the Constitution pgs. 7-9, Article 19 p. 121, Resolution 169 p. 685, etc.  http://search.itu.int/history/HistoryDigitalCollectionDocLibrary/5.21.61.en.100.pdf<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.itu.int%2Fhistory%2FHistoryDigitalCollectionDocLibrary%2F5.21.61.en.100.pdf&data=02%7C01%7C%7C76b1bf60248e4e087d9a08d58f0a737d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636572197410660023&sdata=jGM0klELkFJLP7jdXFvoc2Ern9%2FZaiFSJYHnUOr2hPo%3D&reserved=0>  With respect to decision making, most important stuff is states only, whereas e.g. Sector Members can vote on recommendations within Study Groups, and everyone is supposed to pay to join, although waivers are available.  In general since the 1992 and 1998 plenipotentiaries the scope for varying kinds of participation has expanded, although for a period in the 19th century cable cartel members could actually accede to treaties, albeit without voting rights.

Whatever.

Bill

On Mar 20, 2018, at 22:28, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com<mailto:marilynscade at hotmail.com>> wrote:

ITU has long had members from the private sector.  Academia has been given a special opportunity, and that was approved at a past Plenipot, and by the ITU Council. Some not for profits are actively participate in some parts of the ITU's work.

I think that it is factual that private sector and academia can be members.  There are still criteria to be nominated to become a member, however, so, for instance, If I were to apply, I would have to ask the USG to nominate my company.

UNESCO indeed has embraced a form of MS for some time -- not all MS approaches are created equal, and most are selectively "inviting" different stakeholders.

M


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Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Day 1 update from the WSIS Forum

Hi

Interesting to learn that “ITU now has members from the privat sector, civil society, and academia” (must have amended the Constitution and Convention when nobody was looking) and that "UNESCO has embraced multistakeholderism for a long time.”  Good fodder for the NCUC workshop...

Bill

On Mar 20, 2018, at 12:01, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com<mailto:ocl at gih.com>> wrote:

Dear Marilia,

thank you and congratulations once again for this excellent initiative from GIP.

Of particular interest, is the summary of the CCWG IG's session "A Dialogue on Different Cooperation Models for Approaches to Internet Public Policy Development"

https://dig.watch/sessions/dialogue-different-cooperation-models-approaches-internet-public-policy-development<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdig.watch%2Fsessions%2Fdialogue-different-cooperation-models-approaches-internet-public-policy-development&data=02%7C01%7C%7C64f7a338d41441c219cd08d58e67c714%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636571498723814767&sdata=EOYJ6SuVMhnyZK8AgtF1Bnxbv3ft2EdiGgqOxvRPCPU%3D&reserved=0>

Kindest regards,

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On 20/03/2018 10:42, Marilia Maciel wrote:
Dear colleagues,

As you know, the WSIS Forum is taking place this week in Geneva. The Geneva Internet Platform Digital Watch is providing just-in-time reporting from most of the sessions. We hope this is a way to enhance inclusiveness and to assist those that had conflicts of agenda and could not attend a session of interest. A final report will be produced at the end of the week with a general overview of the event.

The reports from individual sessions that took place on day 1 can be found below. This initiative is made possible with the support from ISOC and ICANN.

All the best wishes,
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