[ccwg-internet-governance] Action Items re: Organisation of an IGF Workshop (was: Re: CCWG-IG call of Thursday, March 28)

cw at christopherwilkinson.eu cw at christopherwilkinson.eu
Thu Apr 11 11:23:37 UTC 2019


Good afternoon:

I am not fully integrated into the IGF Loop, so I approach this with some caution.

However, at first sight, Marilyn’s point is well taken.

EPDP is a piece of ex post facto internal ICANN-esque housekeeping.

The time to have had an IGF session on WHOIS Privacy was about two years ago when we all knew about GDPR, except, apparently, GNSO.
As of today, We don't know whether the ICANN Board will adopt EDPR, we don’t know whether the outcome will be compatible with GDPR, even if to goes up to the ECJ.
For my part I haven’t the faintest idea what to expect from ‘Phase 2’ of EPDP, so I say no more.

CW




> On 5 Apr 2019, at 11:56, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> As I nominated, and strongly support Option 2, with a focus on SSR, I will try to again champion that and explain why.
> 
> I fail to see the benefit of having a status update about EPDP -- and that is in fact, not what the IGF is supposed to be about.  Workshop criteria requires that there be all views, and increasingly, there is an effort to identify possible "outcomes/outputs" from the workshops and main sessions. 
> 
> What would an EPDP "workshop" look like? would it be "to EPDP, or not to EPDP? If it is about why to EPDP, or is an update overall about the issues about access to accurate data, someone should do a mini write up to describe it.
> 
> On the other hand, the risks and threats to the global Internet from security; alternate proposals from nation states, protection of end users -- both businesses and citizens, and indeed government supplied services -- could make a very interesting workshop and allow us to bring in more senior speakers/experts.  
> 
> So, I advocate again for option 2. 
> 
> M
> 
> From: ccwg-internet-governance <ccwg-internet-governance-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
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> Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Action Items re: Organisation of an IGF Workshop (was: Re: CCWG-IG call of Thursday, March 28)
>  
> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> a kind reminder - I have received no response to the enquiry below and our original deadline was yesterday 4th April. Please be so kind to comment ASAP.
> Kindest regards,
> 
> Olivier
> 
> On 28/03/2019 18:46, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond wrote:
>> Dear Colleagues,
>> 
>> on today's CCWG IG call, agenda item (3) focussed on the organisation of an IGF workshop in Berlin.
>> 
>> The CCWG IG has made a proposal for an IGF workshop/roundtable for several years: https://community.icann.org/display/CPMMB/Internet+Governance+Forum <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fdisplay%2FCPMMB%2FInternet%2BGovernance%2BForum&data=02%7C01%7C%7C8dca14b4882e44d6b71108d6b9924e10%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636900435403535674&sdata=98DuMjRk8yY9gdCHygAKK09KDQi3PaNLeqOHqLPhk2M%3D&reserved=0>
>> Last year was the first year a workshop proposal was not approved and this was likely due to IGF Paris being much shorter than usual. In 2019, it is anticipated that the IGF in Berlin will revert to its usual format, thus there is a better chance that a workshop proposal would be accepted than last year.
>> 
>> On today's call several options were proposed:
>> 
>> Option 1
>> 
>> A workshop/roundtable focussed on EPDP topic - similar to the topic we have proposed for the WSIS Forum: a workshop that puts together stakeholders taking part in the EPDP phases 1 and 2.
>> By November 2019, implementation of phase 1 would have started and phase 2 would be in full swing. Some of the discussions taking place at IGF might benefit the work of the EPDP Team
>> Workshop based on phase 1 but concentrating on phase 2. Focus should be on Phase 2. The workshop could be useful in brainstorming standardised access.
>> 
>> 
>> Option 2
>> 
>> 3 topical areas:
>> 
>> - Data governance
>> - Security
>> - Stability (needs community speakers) of the DNS. A growing concern for safety and security of individuals. How resilient is the Internet / Alternative Security in the Internet.
>> This topic has the advantage to be more predictable than a focus that is solely on EPDP Work Stream 2. We could work with SSAC and RSSAC but also all stakeholders at ICANN that work on stability and security, across all SOs and ACs to populate the workshop.
>> 
>> One could argue that the EPDP Phase 2 work, access, is part of security. Security and Stability workshop could include the sub-topic of Phase 2 EPDP - the need or use of gTLD registration data to preserve security and stability of the DNS.
>> 
>> If Option 2 is preferred instead of Option 1, one could have the topic of Option 1 proposed as a Flash session on WorkStream 2. A way to provide a briefing and an update on WorkStream 2.
>> 
>> On the call, our action item was that I should share Option 1 and 2 on the mailing list, with a deadline of 5 working days (4th April 2019), to give the Team enough time to build the Session Proposal. The deadline for submitting workshop proposals at the IGF is 12th April.
>> 
>> Kindest regards,
>> 
>> Olivier
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 25/03/2019 21:05, Desiree Cabrera wrote:
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