[ccwg-internet-governance] Action Items re: Organisation of an IGF Workshop (was: Re: CCWG-IG call of Thursday, March 28)

sivasubramanian muthusamy 6.internet at gmail.com
Thu Apr 11 22:23:45 UTC 2019


Dear Olivier,

1. I agree with the idea "the risks and threats to the global Internet from
security; alternate proposals from nation states, protection of end users
-- both businesses and citizens, and indeed government supplied services --
could make a very interesting workshop and allow us to bring in more senior
speakers/experts."

2. A variation of this idea would be to propose to discuss how and why the
DNS has its own privacy/transparency concerns; The CCWG could propose to
have a free flowing discussion on thick whois and on the idea of legal Vs
natural persons, by this or any other classification. This would be a
unique proposal and may bring in usable suggestions at the concluding phase
of EPDP2.


Sivasubramanian M

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 3:10 PM Nigel Hickson <nigel.hickson at icann.org> wrote:

> Colleagues
>
>
>
> Good morning.  Let me just note a few points:
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>
>
> 1. If the CCWG decides to go forward with Option 2 (as outlined below); we
> would need;
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>
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> (i) A few paragraphs describing the objective of Workshop and what it
> would cover;
>
> (ii) The identification of at least 3-4 diverse panellists that have
> agreed to take part;
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>
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> 2. We need to conclude this by close tomorrow to allow submission through
> the IGF site etc;
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>
>
> best
>
>
>
> Nigel
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> *From: *ccwg-internet-governance <
> ccwg-internet-governance-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Olivier MJ
> Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, 11 April 2019 at 11:15
> *To: *Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com>, ccwg <
> ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Action Items re: Organisation
> of an IGF Workshop (was: Re: CCWG-IG call of Thursday, March 28)
>
>
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> thank you for your input. I have received further input offline and need
> to also let you know that there have been some changes to our WSIS Forum
> session.
> Originally we thought that we could get a discussion going on the results
> of EPDP Phase 1. However we were faced with a lack of people being at WSIS,
> thus leading to an unbalanced panel. I understand that since Phase 1 is
> intimately connected to Phase 2 and since this has been a very sensitive
> topic, we have had to change the format so as to avoid interfering with the
> process. Thus the WSIS Forum proposal has been changed to an informational
> session whereas we'll have the GNSO Chair Keith Drazek reporting remotely
> on how the GNSO creates policy, how an EPDP is different from a PDP. We'll
> then have Phase 1 Chair Kurt Pritz reporting on the process of the EPDP
> Phase 1 as well as its main findings. Then an ICANN member of Staff Elena
> Plexida, explaining the role of the TSG, and finally I'll provide a list of
> the Phase 2 issues.
>
> Given this change, this also affects any proposal we make for IGF. With
> the Phase 2 issues being what they are, there is no guarantee today that
> Phase 2 work will have been concluded by the time the IGF takes place. As a
> result, it would probably be unwise to open up a debate outside the EPDP
> Phase 2 group, that is outward facing and that could complicate the search
> for consensus within the EPDP. For this reason, and given the sensitivities
> revolving about this topic, going for Option 2 with a focus on SSR, thus
> inviting SSAC and RSSAC, as well as OCTO to discuss threats to the Global
> Internet's system identifiers, given the recent OCTO Press releases, sounds
> like a good idea.
> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2019-02-04-en [icann.org]
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_announcement-2D2019-2D02-2D04-2Den&d=DwMF-g&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=RrrXyaBfa00GH1liTedM3FwobVakuhJ-qs1N8-Ji8VE&m=enu6yHtxB75FR8dL8MfOlTxXUY6wef-KVmlyJWIdrMQ&s=8imFzo8oKctQYlfEgaj0m1z7awTUPGsi4iiGj_bg0Ug&e=>
> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2019-02-15-en [icann.org]
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> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2019-02-22-en [icann.org]
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> Please comment as soon as possible, including suggesting speakers. We have
> until this coming Sunday to submit the proposal, but would really like to
> have a first draft out by tomorrow, Friday 12th April.
> Kindest regards,
>
> Olivier
>
> On 05/04/2019 11:56, Marilyn Cade wrote:
>
> As I nominated, and strongly support Option 2, with a focus on SSR, I will
> try to again champion that and explain why.
>
>
>
> I fail to see the benefit of having a status update about EPDP -- and that
> is in fact, not what the IGF is supposed to be about.  Workshop criteria
> requires that there be all views, and increasingly, there is an effort to
> identify possible "outcomes/outputs" from the workshops and main sessions.
>
>
>
> What would an EPDP "workshop" look like? would it be "to EPDP, or not to
> EPDP? If it is about why to EPDP, or is an update overall about the issues
> about access to accurate data, someone should do a mini write up to
> describe it.
>
>
>
> On the other hand, the risks and threats to the global Internet from
> security; alternate proposals from nation states, protection of end users
> -- both businesses and citizens, and indeed government supplied services --
> could make a very interesting workshop and allow us to bring in more senior
> speakers/experts.
>
>
>
> So, I advocate again for option 2.
>
>
>
> M
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> *From:* ccwg-internet-governance
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> <ccwg-internet-governance-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Olivier MJ
> Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> <ocl at gih.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 5, 2019 2:45 AM
> *To:* ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Action Items re: Organisation
> of an IGF Workshop (was: Re: CCWG-IG call of Thursday, March 28)
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>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> a kind reminder - I have received no response to the enquiry below and our
> original deadline was yesterday 4th April. Please be so kind to comment
> ASAP.
> Kindest regards,
>
> Olivier
>
> On 28/03/2019 18:46, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond wrote:
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> on today's CCWG IG call, agenda item (3) focussed on the organisation of
> an IGF workshop in Berlin.
>
> The CCWG IG has made a proposal for an IGF workshop/roundtable for several
> years: https://community.icann.org/display/CPMMB/Internet+Governance+Forum
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> Last year was the first year a workshop proposal was not approved and this
> was likely due to IGF Paris being much shorter than usual. In 2019, it is
> anticipated that the IGF in Berlin will revert to its usual format, thus
> there is a better chance that a workshop proposal would be accepted than
> last year.
>
> On today's call several options were proposed:
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> Option 1
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> A workshop/roundtable focussed on EPDP topic - similar to the topic we
> have proposed for the WSIS Forum: a workshop that puts together
> stakeholders taking part in the EPDP phases 1 and 2.
> By November 2019, implementation of phase 1 would have started and phase 2
> would be in full swing. Some of the discussions taking place at IGF might
> benefit the work of the EPDP Team
> Workshop based on phase 1 but concentrating on phase 2. Focus should be on
> Phase 2. The workshop could be useful in brainstorming standardised access.
>
>
> Option 2
>
> 3 topical areas:
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> - Data governance
> - Security
> - Stability (needs community speakers) of the DNS. A growing concern for
> safety and security of individuals. How resilient is the Internet /
> Alternative Security in the Internet.
> This topic has the advantage to be more predictable than a focus that is
> solely on EPDP Work Stream 2. We could work with SSAC and RSSAC but also
> all stakeholders at ICANN that work on stability and security, across all
> SOs and ACs to populate the workshop.
>
> One could argue that the EPDP Phase 2 work, access, is part of security.
> Security and Stability workshop could include the sub-topic of Phase 2 EPDP
> - the need or use of gTLD registration data to preserve security and
> stability of the DNS.
>
> If Option 2 is preferred instead of Option 1, one could have the topic of
> Option 1 proposed as a Flash session on WorkStream 2. A way to provide a
> briefing and an update on WorkStream 2.
>
> On the call, our action item was that I should share Option 1 and 2 on the
> mailing list, with a deadline of 5 working days (4th April 2019), to give
> the Team enough time to build the Session Proposal. The deadline for
> submitting workshop proposals at the IGF is 12th April.
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> Olivier
>
>
> On 25/03/2019 21:05, Desiree Cabrera wrote:
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