[ccwg-internet-governance] Proposing a non-charter for the group

Veni Markovski veni.markovski at icann.org
Mon Aug 5 21:03:33 UTC 2019


Hi, Marilyn!
We also follow the UNGA discussions on cybersecurity – and I keep the group informed, when there is news, especially when I see a possibility that the discussions there may touch on ICANN’s work.
We have good working relations with the United Nations, and the Permanent Missions to the UN - we have regular meetings, and organize workshops for diplomats and UN staff; last year Goran was at the UN, speaking at the STI Forum, and having a meeting with the UN Secretary-General.

Hope this is useful.

v/

From: ccwg-internet-governance <ccwg-internet-governance-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com>
Date: Monday, August 5, 2019 at 14:08
To: Sam Lanfranco <sam at lanfranco.net>, Olivier Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
Cc: CCWG <ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Proposing a non-charter for the group

I will do my best to be on at least part of this call, but I have other responsibilities re the CCWG-AP.

First, let me commend the ICANN staff for sharing the ITU document about the WTPF. The ITU continues to overstep its core boundaries, and all of us need to be reminding other UN agencies -- and I mean, ICANN Org needs to do this as well as the ICANN stakeholder community -- that when they are the "owner or a primary" they need to step up to the ITU and while recognizing it is "one" player it is not the sole player.

ICANN Org -- and I am going to be very frank here -- seems to think that by spending time with the ITU, they are creating friends and family, because some do come from these founding. WE must insist that ICANN Org get outside its comfort zone and make the CSTD, the UNCTAD, the UNESCO, and UNDP are our best friends.

Ignoring their role means that the ITU staff who mean very well, work ONLY with the regulators, or the Ministries of Comms/IT, but we all understand that achieving the SDGs means: engaging Ministries of Health, development, agriculture, finance... and Youth...

I'd like to see the similar documents from the other major UN agencies shared with this group, please.

Marilyn Cade

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Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Proposing a non-charter for the group


Olivier,

Diversity is essential to ecosystem survival. The ICANN ecosystem tolerated a non-chartered "working party" around human rights. We have all learned to consume "zero-draft" versions of preliminary documents. Non-Charter is better than zero-Charter, and null-Charter or nil-charter would certainly not work.

Regrets for tomorrow's meeting. I will be in transit.

Sam Lanfranco, NPOC


On 3 Aug 2019, at 17:06, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com<mailto:ocl at gih.com>> wrote:

Dear colleagues,

on this forthcoming Tuesday's call, we'll have some time set aside to re-define the "Charter" of the CCEG based on the results of the discussions that were held at our last meeting in Marrakesh.
First, it is a "non-Charter" - as we had decided that this group was not going to be Chartered. If you have a proposal for a less ambiguous term, please don't hesitate to make it. I do feel like some document is needed to define the group as it will help in focussing our information exchange, so this is my first stab at it.
What I have done is to take the CCEG Charter and strip it of any mention of chartering. I also removed the allusion to "member" as this should be an open group, thus everyone will be either participants or observers, as they choose to be. A few other things have been removed as well, such as finding consensus and making decisions - as this is what we have received most objections about. And of course any mention of CCEG has been replaced with another funky acronym, the Internet Governance Engagement Group - IGEG - which my French ears tell me sounds better than EGIG - you might disagree.
Anyway, here's the document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G8GMxFGnMzk92o6BSIqka6irT_GPv2c3hCHi09Bu7LY/edit?usp=sharing [eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fdocs.google.com-252Fdocument-252Fd-252F1G8GMxFGnMzk92o6BSIqka6irT-5FGPv2c3hCHi09Bu7LY-252Fedit-253Fusp-253Dsharing-26data-3D02-257C01-257C-257C42e0d1309ebf43523bc508d719c1d1fc-257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa-257C1-257C0-257C637006192546879143-26sdata-3Dq171MoRK1VbSXD8ZOdw13PTRMK89v-252BsLQnR-252FSRv68x0-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFoQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=K2FTKNuWb7Wf7f2CPCidMAlhi_unNVA6jjeHLvfMGss&m=IaaFrR5zZV6Updfzm4x8nvhUyhPfYmEaT8944JYZNJk&s=1pdNVcnTe20PUhHdt6y00LNoWntCKNSYtrHgrd6FcUE&e=>

Please comment,

Olivier

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