[ccwg-internet-governance] [Ext] Re: Proposal to be discussed on Thursday Aug 29 in the ITU SG-17

Yeseul Kim borisu0815 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 6 09:07:29 UTC 2019


Thanks Laurent for the update.

What about discussing this issue - Alibaba’s filing for patent issues - at
this year’s IGF if any of the people here will have their own sessions this
year? Or writing an article on medium.com or bringing this topic to Berkman
Klein Center or other relevant educational institutions seem to be another
option?

It will also be interesting and informative for all of us if we can have
our brief discussion during the next ICANN meeting in Montréal.



Best,
Yeseul

On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 at 5:12 PM Laurent Ferrali <laurent.ferrali at icann.org>
wrote:

> Dear Marylin,
>
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> Thank you very much for your message and this kind introduction, and sorry
> for this late answer.
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> Please find below some background fact based information (from a
> political/governance perspective). This is for your information and doesn’t
> reflect ICANN’s position on this issue.
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>    - Several blockchain industry key players are using alternative domain
>    names for their blockchain operations. Domain names currently in use by the
>    Blockchain industry:
>       - Namecoin is using .bit
>       - EMercoin is using .coin
>       - Ethereum is using .eth
>    - But the interoperability between blockchain platforms and networks
>    remains limited, impeding the development of the technology on a wide scale
>    (Existing interoperability solutions, such as COSMOS, only have a local
>    scope and cannot be used outside the relay chain network)
>    - In November 2018, Alibaba filed a PCT (international) patent
>    application for a "unified domain name" and management scheme for
>    cross-chain interactions, which is now being fast-tracked in various
>    jurisdictions. This system is intended to be used as a unified means of
>    managing domain names in cross-chain interactions across blockchain systems.
>    - According to the filing, Alibaba intends to patent a system that
>    uses what they call a “unified blockchain domain name” (UBCDN) in order to
>    denote and share information. In the system, Alibaba proposes to use a
>    computing system to generate a UBCDN message which contains a blockchain
>    domain name and a chain identifier that is paired with that name. This
>    UBCDN system is intended to be used as a unified means of managing domain
>    names in cross-chain interactions across blockchain systems. See the PCT
>    patent application in Attachment, and the following press article
>    https://cointelegraph.com/news/alibaba-files-us-patent-for-blockchain-domain-name-management-system
>    - In the meantime, Alibaba has been selected by the Central Bank of
>    China as one of the operators for the new China’s state-backed
>    cryptocurrency
>    <https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeldelcastillo/2019/08/27/alibaba-tencent-five-others-to-recieve-first-chinese-government-cryptocurrency/#59c7e6161a51>
>    - Such a system would mirror, for blockchain, the domain name system
>    of the Internet.
>    - Putting in place such a system is not only desirable, it is needed
>    for blockchain to have a transformative impact on a global scale. A we
>    know, the Internet would not have had the impact it has had if the
>    management of domain names had been "privatized" and the main protocols
>    patented
>    - So for some experts, these latest developments make the need for
>    blockchain-focused multi-stakeholder governance structures more urgent than
>    ever.
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>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
>
>
> Laurent
>
> *From: *Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com>
> *Date: *Friday, August 30, 2019 at 2:39 PM
> *To: *Laurent Ferrali <laurent.ferrali at icann.org>
> *Cc: *Jim Prendergast <jim at galwaysg.com>, Nigel Hickson <
> nigel.hickson at icann.org>, ccwg <ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org>
> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Proposal to be discussed
> on Thursday Aug 29 in the ITU SG-17
>
>
>
> Laurent, thanks for this information.
>
>
>
> For those who don't know him well, in my view, Laurent is a serious
> technical expert at ICANN we can ask for more information.
>
>
>
> I wondered, Laurent, if you might give us a few paragraphs about what
> managing blockchain domain names means?
>
>
>
> I confess, I was either confused, or bemused.
>
>
>
> but expect we need to understand!
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Laurent Ferrali <laurent.ferrali at icann.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2019 9:10 AM
> *To:* Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* Jim Prendergast <jim at galwaysg.com>; Nigel Hickson <
> nigel.hickson at icann.org>; ccwg <ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Proposal to be discussed on
> Thursday Aug 29 in the ITU SG-17
>
>
>
> Hi,
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> I just want to flag that in the meantime Alibaba has recently filed
> several patent applications about managing blockchain domain names , with
> the EUPIO (Europe), United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) and
> with IP office of Singapore.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Laurent
>
> Envoyé de mon iPhone
>
>
> Le 29 août 2019 à 12:46, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com> a écrit :
>
> I think this is indeed of concern, Jim. Thanks for forwarding it to the
> group.
>
> I believe that ICANN participants in SG-17, but I am not sure if the RIRs
> /Root Server Operators are presently involved.
>
>
>
> Notice how limited the author list is.
>
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> *From:* ccwg-internet-governance <
> ccwg-internet-governance-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Jim Prendergast <
> jim at GALWAYSG.COM>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:46 AM
> *To:* Nigel Hickson <nigel.hickson at icann.org>; ccwg <
> ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org>
> *Subject:* [ccwg-internet-governance] Proposal to be discussed on
> Thursday Aug 29 in the ITU SG-17
>
>
>
> Nigel and all – has ICANN or anyone else been tracking the attached
> proposal?
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> It was just sent to me and admittedly it’s a bit beyond my area of
> expertise but some of the language concerns me.  Am I over thinking it?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Jim Prendergast
>
> The Galway Strategy Group
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> +1 202 285 3699
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> @jimpren
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 Best regards,
 Yeseul Kim
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