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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>YOU are fabulous to make that comment, Ken!&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Of course, you are right, we are all geek-speaking-IG, sorry about that.&nbsp;</div><div>Will do better on the call, I promise.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: kstubbs@afilias.info<br>To: wjdrake@gmail.com; ocl@gih.com<br>Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 11:33:04 -0500<br>CC: ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org<br>Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Proposed Agenda for CCWG IG public meeting in Marrakech<br><br>
  
    
  
  
    <font face="Arial">Far too many acronyms in these threads&nbsp; !!!<br>
      <br>
      I have contacted Rosetta Stone to try to talk them into doing a
      series<br>
      on Internet Governance speak<br>
      <br>
      Can't we "dial it down just a bit" so the average person can
      understand what your all saying.<br>
      <br>
      Ken Stubbs<br>
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    <div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix">On 2/9/16 11:17, William Drake wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote cite="mid:B118B78B-FD01-4242-9087-5AB52122EE5D@gmail.com">
      
      <div>Hi Olivier</div>
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      <div>I suggest we just skip the fragmentation topic as
        there’s not enough time to say anything about the issues or
        developments elsewhere, some of which you’ve indicated are off
        limits anyway. &nbsp;As an alternative, you could follow the now
        standard format of WSIS process talk followed by a section on
        Misc. Everything Else. &nbsp;In the latter context, people might be
        interested to hear what was decided by the NMI CC in Madrid just
        prior, as well as about the OECD ministerial and other settings.</div>
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      <div>Best</div>
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      <div>Bill</div>
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          <div>On Feb 9, 2016, at 17:02, Olivier MJ
            Crepin-Leblond &lt;<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a>&gt;
            wrote:</div>
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          <div><span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">Hello everyone,</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">I think that some of the participants in the CCWG
              Internet Governance have managed to meet F2F in the NCPH
              inter-sessional. I have received some more input on the
              proposed Marrakech agendas which we'll discuss in today's
              call:</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://community.icann.org/x/ygWAAw" style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/ygWAAw</a><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">Proposed Public Session in Marrakech (75 minutes
              total time)</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">Thursday morning @ 09.00</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">1. GAC High Level meeting takeaway (5 minutes)</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">[ This is just going to be a quick summary of the
              results of the GAC High Level meeting that took place on
              the Monday of the meeting. I have a response from the GAC
              Chair that a GAC Vice Chair will be able to deliver this.
              ]</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">2. The WSIS+10 process (30 minutes)</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">a. main outcomes</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">b. what to look out for in the future</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">Proposed Panellists:</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">Hana AlHashimi - speaking about the SDGs</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">Peter Major - speaking about CSTD's Enhanced
              Cooperation</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">Chengetai Masango - speaking about IGF extension</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">There then follows an open floor discussion for
              the remainder of this section time.</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">3. Debate about Fragmentation vs. Openness (20
              minutes)</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">Inputs:</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">WEF - fragmentation paper (presented by Bill
              Drake)</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">OECD debate on this topic. Is a follow-up to
              ministerial meeting in Seoul.(who?)</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">Context in the names and numbers</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">(note that The Wushen conference will not be
              discussed explicitly due to its sensitivity)</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">We need to choose panellists for this second part
              of the session.</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">F2F Working Group Session</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">Wednesday @ 10.45</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">Please contribute the topics which you think we
              should discuss.</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">One of them will need to be:</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
            <span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important;">WSIS Forum Workshop Preparation</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">
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              wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">Let me see if I can work with all
                of us - to create an agenda -- the CCWG IG also needs to
                focus on our own internal working and meeting.&nbsp;
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                <div>I do apologize, but this is really a
                  priority to me and I seem to have missed when we are
                  scheduling that.</div>
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                      <hr id="ecxstopSpelling">From:<span class="ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com"></a><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com">marilynscade@hotmail.com</a><br>
                      To:<span class="ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com"></a><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>;<span class="ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ocl@gih.com"></a><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a><br>
                      Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 09:55:44 -0500<br>
                      CC:<span class="ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org"></a><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org">ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org</a><br>
                      Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] Proposed
                      Agenda for CCWG IG public meeting in Marrakech<br>
                      <br>
                      <div dir="ltr">We really need to have
                        both the IGF Secretariat and the WSIS Chair on
                        this panel, as this is the first in the trilogy
                        of the ICANN meetings
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>So much has happened. &nbsp;The ICANN
                          community will benefit from a sort of roadmap,
                          and survey of the road ahead.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>We are not debating what is
                          happening. In fact, that is simply NOT what
                          the CCWG-IG is about, but about our [as a
                          group] providing ideas, and almost guidance on
                          what the community views as critically
                          important in how ICANN interacts in the larger
                          IG ecosystem.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>BUT, to be credible, we need to do
                          more work internally as a CCWG-IG.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>I regret that I missed the meeting
                          during the ICANN in Ireland. I was at the UN,
                          as all of you are bored for me to remind!&nbsp;</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>BUT, there are a few things.&nbsp;</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>I appreciate hearing that we want
                          new faces, and note that in the 30 minutes
                          about ecosystem, that could be a great place
                          for that!&nbsp;</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Farzaneh, perhaps you can identify
                          2-3 'new faces' with expertise that could make
                          3-4 minute interventions. &nbsp;And, perhaps we
                          could strive to invite such responses from the
                          floor. I recall that so often in these
                          sessions, we look at the microphone line and
                          it is empty. or has 2 people. THAT is not a
                          welcomed sight to me. It is not that we, the
                          organizers deny receptivity but that standing
                          up is challening.&nbsp;</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Let's think about a different
                          approach. We can set up different mikes, as I
                          made sure that was done at the WSIS+10 session
                          at the IGF! [modeled after NetMundial, by the
                          way. ] Then, different CCWG-IG members can
                          brief and support engagement and facilitate
                          awareness about the session, and we can have a
                          standing line of [goal] 5+ [+] speakers per
                          stakeholder group!&nbsp;</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>I love it</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>this week, I will see Farzaneh at
                          the CSG Intercessional. Perhaps we can
                          strategize on audience engagement approaches.&nbsp;</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>that means probably that we need
                          to develop what I will call 'guiding
                          questions'.&nbsp;</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Now, a question: should we invite
                          one of the UN co facilitators/ or their staff
                          to join us for this session? I would love that
                          and offer to reach out to them.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>After all, we have the Net Mundial
                          as a role model and the WSIS+10 event at IGF.
                          3 minutes strictly enforced got a lot of
                          'stuff said', so to speak.</div>
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                            <div>
                              <hr id="ecxstopSpelling">Date:
                              Tue, 2 Feb 2016 11:06:10 +0100<br>
                              Subject: Re: [ccwg-internet-governance]
                              Proposed Agenda for CCWG IG public meeting
                              in Marrakech<br>
                              From:<span class="ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com"></a><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a><br>
                              To:<span class="ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ocl@gih.com"></a><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a><br>
                              CC:<span class="ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org"></a><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org">ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org</a>;<span class="ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com"></a><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com">marilynscade@hotmail.com</a><br>
                              <br>
                              <p dir="ltr">Olivier<span class="ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></p>
                              <p dir="ltr">Sorry I didn't
                                attend all the preparatory meetings so I
                                am not sure about a couple of things .<span class="ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>
                                Why are we having a GAC high level
                                meeting takeaway in our ig session?&nbsp; Can
                                we be at least more specific how they
                                fit? Is the takeaway about wsis etc?<span class="ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></p>
                              <p dir="ltr">I still don't&nbsp; know
                                where we are putting igf sec and cstd.<span class="ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>
                                We have been always struggling to put
                                new faces on the panel.&nbsp; Cant some
                                participants that have become active in
                                this field brief us on issues?&nbsp;</p>
                              <p dir="ltr">Best<span class="ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></p>
                              <p dir="ltr">Farzaneh</p>
                              <div class="ecxgmail_quote">On 1 Feb 2016
                                21:36, "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" &lt;<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ocl@gih.com"></a><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a>&gt;
                                wrote:<br>
                                <blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;">Dear Marilyn,<br>
                                  <br>
                                  On 30/01/2016 18:12, Marilyn Cade
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  &gt; Might I again insist that we
                                  invite Chengetai Masango, IGF
                                  Secretariat<br>
                                  &gt; and Peter Major, CSTD Chair to
                                  this session. That would fit into
                                  1,2.3<br>
                                  <br>
                                  I personally think this is a good
                                  idea. They would definitely have<br>
                                  things to say about all of the topics.<br>
                                  All - any other suggestions?<br>
                                  Any feedback on the agenda itself?<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Reminder: (with the GAC round-up
                                  brought to the beginning of the
                                  meeting<br>
                                  since it is a short item)<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Proposed Public Session in Marrakech
                                  (75 minutes total time)<br>
                                  <br>
                                  1. GAC High Level meeting takeaway (5
                                  minutes)<br>
                                  <br>
                                  2. The WSIS+10 process (20 minutes)<br>
                                  a. main outcomes<br>
                                  b. what to look out for in the future<br>
                                  <br>
                                  3. Debate about Fragmentation vs.
                                  Openness (30 minutes)<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Inputs:<br>
                                  WEF - fragmentation paper<br>
                                  OECD debate on this topic. Is a
                                  follow-up to ministerial meeting in
                                  Seoul.<br>
                                  Context in the names and numbers<br>
                                  The Wushen conference<br>
                                  <br>
                                  --- end of agenda<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  Kindest regards,<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Olivier<br>
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