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    Dear Ron Baione,<br>
    <br>
    please refrain from posting such material to the CCWG Internet
    Governance mailing list, especially when you have cross posted the
    same text to many other unrelated working group mailing lists and
    the topic which you are posting about is way out of this working
    group's topics. This type of behaviour is known as "trolling" (
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll</a> ) and is not tolerated
    here.<br>
    <br>
    In order to help you with future postings, our discussions are
    framed by the charter of this working group which you may download
    from <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://community.icann.org/x/lQInAw">https://community.icann.org/x/lQInAw</a><br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    <br>
    Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond<br>
    Co-chair - CCWG Internet Governance<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/02/2016 19:58, Ron Baione via
      ccwg-internet-governance wrote:<br>
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              <div>Sam:<br>
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                When there is an argument publicly presented that the
                United States is not an Oligarchy, let me know. <br>
                <br>
                Then it will be a debate. Janet, Hillary, Barack and
                numerous pundits and officials have been asked publicly
                whether or not the United States is an oligarchy, their
                answer:<br>
                <br>
                "We don't really like to put labels on it."<br>
                <br>
                Of course not, what puppet would want to label their own
                scam with the correct definition? Definitions and truth
                do not matter in an oligarchy, a tool of oligarchy is to
                manipulate language for the purpose of maintaining
                power. Therefore it is not a debateable issue, because
                the United States being an Oligarchy since 1976 is a
                fact that millions of Americans are realizing each day.
                <br>
                <br>
                No amount of distraction, celebrity, or manufactured
                nonsense by the establishment (oligarchy) and their
                puppet owned media will be enough to prevent that fact
                from becoming more well known, and the U.S. oligarchy is
                only beginning to deflect the truth and care about
                historical facts because people are gaining more
                understanding into how the last four decades have been
                economically rigged in a purposeful, unamerican and
                inhuman way. Not a debate, fact. <br>
                <br>
                I intellectually challenge anyone to provide a
                counter-argument to my argument, and in fact I have
                provided that intellectual challenge before and no one
                has taken up that intellectual challenge because the sun
                rises every day and the U.S. is an oligarchy with many
                puppets sucking up to it like the undignified pawns that
                they are.<br>
                <br>
                Ron</div>
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              <hr size="1"> <b> <span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span>
              </b> Sam Lanfranco <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sam@lanfranco.net">&lt;sam@lanfranco.net&gt;</a>; <br>
              <b> <span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span> </b> Ron
              Baione <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ron.baione@yahoo.com">&lt;ron.baione@yahoo.com&gt;</a>; <br>
              <b> <span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span> </b>
              Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] U.S. Nationlization of
              Apple's Employees <br>
              <b> <span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span> </b>
              Thu, Feb 18, 2016 2:31:33 PM <br>
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                  <td valign="top"> Ron,<br clear="none">
                    <br clear="none">
                    The Apple/U.S. Federal Government issue about writs,
                    locked phones and privacy, as a topic, does fit
                    within the Internet governance scope of concerns,
                    even if a role in national policy does not. <br
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                    However, linking this issue to broader political
                    debates within the United States is outside the
                    scope that we should be focused on here. <br
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                    Such concerns may be of importance to citizens of
                    the United States, to trading partners, and to
                    countries supplying labor to the U.S.<br
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                    It is just that we should stay focused on the core
                    issues within our remit, and those issue should
                    reside outside the scope of the discussion here, in
                    my humble opinion. <br clear="none">
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                    Sam L.<br clear="none">
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                      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/02/2016 10:43
                        PM, Ron Baione via ccwg-internet-governance
                        wrote:<br clear="none">
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                                <div><font color="#663366"><small><i>This
                                        email is written in support of
                                        the rights of employees of the
                                        american tech industry:</i><i><br
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                                      </i><i><br clear="none">
                                      </i><i>After forcing all American
                                        citizens to purchase a product,
                                        health insurance, the U.S.
                                        government is looking to force
                                        employees of a private company,
                                        Apple, to perform a specific
                                        task in the creation of a new
                                        product, in this instance, to
                                        create new code which would then
                                        allow the government to bypass
                                        Iphone security protections,
                                        according to the article at the
                                        following website:</i><i><br
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                                      </i><i><br clear="none">
                                      </i><i><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/17/apple-unlocked-iphones-for-the-feds-70-times-before.html">http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/17/apple-unlocked-iphones-for-the-feds-70-times-before.html</a></i><i><br
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                                      </i><i><br clear="none">
                                      </i><i>The U.S. government can
                                        legally ask companies to comply
                                        with existing regulations, but a
                                        government agent forcing
                                        individual employees of a
                                        private company to perform a
                                        specific task, effectively
                                        forcing the employee to choose
                                        between retaining their job and
                                        creating the new product for the
                                        government, is simply the next
                                        step down the slippery slope.
                                        Americans are in the "forced
                                        actions phase" of this
                                        oligarchy. </i><i><br
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                                      </i><i><br clear="none">
                                      </i><i>Internet policy groups and
                                        all internet governance groups
                                        should at least consider that
                                        when the heath insurance mandate
                                        was accepted, people wondered
                                        what would be the next mandate,
                                        would a future president take
                                        advantage of the trend towards
                                        mandating citizens to act? If
                                        apple's employees are forced to
                                        comply with a forced action,
                                        that in my opinion is no
                                        different than Apple having been
                                        nationalized by the U.S.
                                        government, in my opinion.
                                        What's next? The argument is
                                        much bigger than phones. U.S.
                                        government agents could order
                                        any private company employee in
                                        the entire country to perform
                                        any task the government deemed
                                        necessary. If a future
                                        government agent deemed that it
                                        was immediately necessary for a
                                        future apple employee to shine
                                        the shoes of the government
                                        agent, then they could refer
                                        back to the forced creation of
                                        code and ask, what's the
                                        difference? </i><i><br
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                                      </i><i><br clear="none">
                                      </i><i>Oligarchy is about gaining
                                        the obedience of its citizens to
                                        the state via brutality (see
                                        broken windows police theory
                                        argument on gaining obedience)
                                        and via the provision of
                                        lose-lose choices that pit a
                                        citizen against his or her own
                                        ability to economically support
                                        himself or herself. Any male
                                        government agent forcing or
                                        pressuring a female private
                                        employee at apple to perform a
                                        specific action would also be
                                        violating women's Civil Rights
                                        law, same can be said for race
                                        etc., civil rights law exist for
                                        a reason in the american
                                        workplace. Oligarchy is
                                        government by hypocritical
                                        political criminals and their
                                        stooges, and internet governance
                                        groups should call it out for
                                        what it is and speak out against
                                        the american oligarchy on behalf
                                        of the U.S. tech industry which
                                        employs citizens from all
                                        countries. </i><i><br
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                                      </i><i>Ron</i><i><br clear="none">
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