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    Hello all,<br>
    <br>
    although I am surprised that the means of response of the GNSO
    Council is through a cut/paste of its internal discussions, and not
    through an official GNSO response, I do not know if we are
    responding to the GNSO Council or to less than a handful of
    councillors from the CPH.<br>
    In any case, please be so kind to find a doodle poll for anyone
    interested to be on a drafting team to furnish a "response":
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://doodle.com/poll/i5apywqqdgiwiai5">http://doodle.com/poll/i5apywqqdgiwiai5</a><br>
    The Doodle poll will close by 23:59 UTC on Monday.<br>
    <br>
    Kindest regards,<br>
    <br>
    Olivier<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/06/2017 10:29, Rafik Dammak
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Hi Farzaneh,</div>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Yes definitely it will be really
          helpful to work on the response so that can be raised during
          GNSO Council meeting.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">if needed we can organize a call early
          next week for the drafting team.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Rafik</div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">2017-06-15 1:38 GMT+09:00 farzaneh
            badii <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
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                <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Hello Rafik,</div>
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                <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">As we are
                  getting very close to Johannesburg meeting, should we
                  start working on a response? </div>
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                <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Best </div>
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                <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Farzaneh</div>
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                      <div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div>
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                    <div class="h5">On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 7:33 PM,
                      Rafik Dammak <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                          href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                      wrote:<br>
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                        <div dir="ltr">Hi all,<br>
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                          I am sharing here some comments below made by
                          Donna in GNSO council list regarding the
                          amended charter. You will find also comments
                          made in the attached word document.
                          <div><br>
                            The status of the CCWG-IG  and the amended
                            agenda were discussed in last GNSO council
                            call last week and several councilors made
                            comments there (transcripts <a
href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/transcript-council-18may17-en.pdf"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://gnso.icann.org/en/meet<wbr>ings/transcript-council-18may1<wbr>7-en.pdf</a>
                             , <a
href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/transcript-chat-council-18may17-en.pdf"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://gnso.icann.org/en/meet<wbr>ings/transcript-chat-council-<wbr>18may17-en.pdf</a>
                            and here <a
                              href="https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-council-18may17-en.mp3"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://audio.icann.org/gnso/g<wbr>nso-council-18may17-en.mp3</a>).
                            There are still concerns with the current
                            structure and the mission of the CCWG-IG in
                            particular from our colleagues in contracted
                            party.<br>
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                            the council has as an action for
                            Johannesburg meeting to "discuss and prepare
                            a motion to either express support for a new
                            charter or withdraw as a chartering
                            organization". 
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                            <div>I suggest that we work on a response
                              from the CCWG-IG to those comments and
                              making suggestions when needed.  we can do
                              that first at the drafting team level
                              first and then going to the whole group
                              for discussion.<br>
                              <br>
                              Best,<br>
                              <br>
                              Rafik<br>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks
                                          Rafik, for providing a copy of
                                          the word doc.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I’ve
                                          made some comments in the
                                          document and perhaps you can
                                          address these during the
                                          Council meeting tomorrow or
                                          over email. I apologise that I
                                          didn’t get these to you
                                          earlier. These comments are
                                          reflective of concerns
                                          expressed by the RySG when the
                                          CCWG IG has been discussed.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I
                                          understand that
                                          post-transition ICANN needs to
                                          be cognizant, and responsive,
                                          to any potential threats to
                                          its mandate and well-being
                                          from external entities. This
                                          is not a new situation, but
                                          certainly the new environment
                                          may see a new wave of threats
                                          emerge. I certainly appreciate
                                          the benefits of having a
                                          community that is conversant
                                          of these threats and are
                                          actively engaged with ICANN
                                          the organisation and the Board
                                          with a view to mitigating
                                          against any emerging threats.
                                        </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I
                                          do have concerns about the
                                          authority of the CCWG IG to
                                          develop position papers and
                                          present these as ICANN
                                          community contributions, but
                                          perhaps this concern would be
                                          allayed if I had a better
                                          understanding of the subject
                                          matter of these position
                                          papers. I would also hope that
                                          any position papers would be
                                          supported by ICANN’s GE team
                                          and the Board IG WG. I think
                                          the Charter would benefit from
                                          more specificity in this
                                          regard, along with concrete
                                          examples of the IG fora the
                                          CCWG would attend or be
                                          involved in in some way.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I
                                          still struggle with the CCWG
                                          as the most appropriate
                                          vehicle for this effort and it
                                          would be helpful to understand
                                          if other possibilities were
                                          discussed, or conversely why
                                          the CCWG believes this is the
                                          most appropriate vehicle. My
                                          struggle relates to the fact
                                          that the Charter speaks to a
                                          number of different products,
                                          but no timeline or
                                          specificity. While the charter
                                          proposes co-ordination with
                                          the ICANN’s GE team and the
                                          Board IG WG, to me it would
                                          seem a much better option to
                                          have the members of the
                                          current CCWG IG, ICANN’s GE
                                          team and the Board IG WG,
                                          develop an overarching
                                          strategy on IG, which clearly
                                          sets out roles and
                                          responsibilities and project
                                          plans could be developed as a
                                          result. Perhaps this has
                                          already been done and I am
                                          just not familiar with it.
                                        </span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Look
                                          forward to discussing on the
                                          Council call tomorrow.</span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Regards</span></p>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Donna</span></p>
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