[ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?

齐超 qichao at cnnic.cn
Fri Apr 17 15:50:42 UTC 2015



   张老师,您好,

       Jonathan已经发出了部分的香港字,据说全部的有一百多,可以覆盖下面一半以上了。现在由于没有权威资料,只能先标注再讨论了。另外老师说的“古字”,是否有字表呢?
谢谢。

在 2015-04-17 22:42:30,"Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang at unihan.com.cn> 写道:

>抱歉,我手头没有合用的工具。有一本过去资料,在从三亚到北京的快件途中。只好根据我现有的知识和工具,核对了一遍这些字。
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>大多数是日文汉字。
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>很多是古字现用,我没把握,最好请懂日文的核对一下。我加了问号。如果是古字,就别收了。
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>请齐超注意标注一下。
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>发件人:齐超 [mailto:qichao at cnnic.cn]
>发送时间: 2015年4月17日 10:31
>收件人: JOEZHANG43; Joe Zhang; yanzhiwei; wangwei
>抄送: ChineseGP at icann.org
>主题: Re: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?
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>张老师,王伟,
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>   根据昨天王伟发出的最终字表,查询CDNC中已有的variant定义,形成了一个MSS最小化的字表variant。
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>MSS中有 12334 个字在 CDNC中,剩下的197个(12534 - 12334)个还没有variant定义,如下(也可以在excel中筛选出)。
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>这些字不知道张老师有没有现成的variant集 ? 如果 case by case 确认的还是很费时的。
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>齐超 via foxmail
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>发件人: 王伟
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>发送时间: 2015年4月16日(星期四) 下午11:38
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>收件人: KIM Kyongsok
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>抄送: hotta at jprs.co.jp; Dongman Lee; Joe Zhang; Wang Wei; Kenny Huang; Yuri; Yoshiro YONEYA; Zhang Zhoucai; ; Zhiwei Yan; KoreanGP at icann.org; ChineseGP at icann.org; JapaneseGP at icann.org; ? ??; 조성덕; 신상현
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>主题: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?
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>Dear All
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>After the discussion in today‘s CGP meeting, Prof. ZHANG and Mr. QI Chao has produced a Minimum Shared Set (MSS) for C, J and K.
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>The MSS is consisted of the following code point subset:
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>A: IICore Base (9810, all fall in MSR)
>B: Historically Registered Hanzi under .CN/TW/HK (7000/5292/4191, all fall in MSR)
>C: PRC National Normalized Hanzi along with their traditional variants (8105/3489, some out of MSR)
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>MSS=A+B+C-D-E
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>D: code points in C, but not in MSR
>E: Stroke or Radicals (31) LIDU?(5)  Out of BMP(62)
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>finally, we got 12531 valid code points aggregate a Minimum Shared Set, based on which C, J and K could define their own variants, or adopt others variants.
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>After all three GPs finish the variants generation and coordinaiton on MSS,
>each GP still has the chance to add independent code points (with no variants) into MSS seperately, to from its own final repertoire.
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>STEP1: MSS generated and accepted by three GPs, a mininum code points set shared by all of us.
>STEP2: variants generated and coordinated based on MSS
>STEP3: Add each GP's own independent and unrelated code points, form the final formal repertoire.
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>Does this process work for you? please feel free to give your comments.
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>Regards
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>WANG Wei
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>PS: special thanks for the hardwork of Mr. QI Chao
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>-----原始邮件-----
>发件人: "KIM Kyongsok" <gimgs0 at gmail.com>
>发送时间: 2015年4月16日 星期四
>收件人: "hotta at jprs.co.jp" <hotta at jprs.co.jp>
>抄送: "Wang Wei" <wangwei at cnic.cn>, "Dongman Lee" <dlee at cs.kaist.ac.kr>, "Joe Zhang" <joezhang43 at hotmail.com>, "Wang Wei" <wangwei at cnnic.cn>, "Kenny Huang" <huangksh at gmail.com>, Yuri <takamatsu at jprs.co.jp>, "Yoshiro YONEYA" <yoshiro.yoneya at jprs.co.jp>, "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang at unihan.com.cn>, "<qichao at cnnic.cn>" <qichao at cnnic.cn>, "Zhiwei Yan" <yanzhiwei at cnnic.cn>, "KoreanGP at icann.org" <KoreanGP at icann.org>, "ChineseGP at icann.org" <ChineseGP at icann.org>, "JapaneseGP at icann.org" <JapaneseGP at icann.org>, "? ??" <mjkim at kisa.or.kr>, "조성덕" <isanjo at empas.com>, "신상현" <partizan21 at naver.com>, "KIM Kyongsok" <gimgs0 at gmail.com>
>主题: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?
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>Dear everybody:
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>KLGP is trying to prepare a repertoire and a variant table.
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>I would like to get the (or almost?)  latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables.
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>Thanks very much in advance.
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>--
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>김경석      KIM, Kyongsok
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