[ChineseGP] 答复: [Japanesegp] 答复: Proposed Action items before Seoul meeting

王伟 wangwei at cnic.cn
Tue May 5 11:18:29 UTC 2015


Sorry for the mistake in the last mail.

For JGP, the case should go like:
	ؤ, ؤ(A), D(o)

regards


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·¢ËÍʱ¼ä: 2015Äê5ÔÂ5ÈÕ 19:02
ÊÕ¼þÈË: 'Yoshiro YONEYA'
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Ö÷Ìâ: ´ð¸´: [Japanesegp] ´ð¸´: [ChineseGP] Proposed Action items before
Seoul meeting

Dear Yoneya San


	Thanks for your work.
	It seems we already have a unanimous agreement on the repertoire so
far.
	For your first question, yes, we would like to see J-LGR-2. Please
send it to us when you ready.

	For the conflicts you mentioned, from CDNC's perspective, we don¡¯t
treat them as conflicts.
	Let's take 4E10ؤfor example, CGP will follow CDNC's variant setting
and rule, it goes like the follows:
	D, ؤ(S), D(T)
	ؤ, ؤ(B), D(b)
	Which means, the preferred simplified code points and traditional
code points would be different, the variant corresponding actions are
asymmetric, considering the actual language environment usage difference.
	
	In this case, because J-LGR-1 has 4E10 too (but has no 4E0F), so I
assume JGP variant action would follow CGP's action be like
	ؤ, ؤ(B), D(b)

	I am not sure if the above case will work for JGP.
	As you listed in the last mail, CGP has many code points as above,
including the most important·¢-°l-°kand·¢/ óŒ.

	Looking forward to your reply.


Regards
Wang Wei

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·¢¼þÈË: Yoshiro YONEYA [mailto:yoshiro.yoneya at jprs.co.jp]
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Ö÷Ìâ: Re: [Japanesegp] ´ð¸´: [ChineseGP] Proposed Action items before Seoul
meeting

Dear Wang Wei san and all,

Thank you for CGP's effort.  I checked mss-var-20150430.xml from two
viewpoints below:

(1) Whether Yoneya's algorithm work fine with C and J LGR-1
(2) Whether C-LGR-1 has conflicts of disposition type

For (1), it seemed working fine.
  - There was no difference between C-LGR-1 and generated C-LGR-2
    (This is because J-LGR-1 has no variant)
  - Variants in generated J-LGR-2 were the same with C and J LGR-M

  (please let me know if you want to see J-LGR-2)

For (2), I found hundreds of conflicts listed below.  
         Here, each mark means the disposition type as:
  - S: simp
  - T: trad
  - B: both
  - b: blocked

CP      disposition types
U+4E10: SB
U+4E11: BS
U+4E18: BS
U+4E30: BbS
U+4E43: BSS
U+4E48: BTSS
U+4E7E: BTTbbS
U+4E86: BSS
U+4E91: BS
U+4E95: SB
U+4EC6: BS
U+4EC7: BSbb
U+4ED9: BSS
U+4EF2: BS
U+4EFF: BSbS
U+4F0A: BS
U+4F19: BS
U+4F59: BSb
U+4F5B: BBSS
U+4F60: TBbbb
U+4F63: BS
U+4F69: BS
U+4F84: BS
U+4FDD: BS
U+4FDE: BBS
U+4FEF: SBS
U+500F: BS
U+501F: BSS
U+5026: BbS
U+506C: BS
U+5077: BBS
U+508D: BS
U+50ED: SB
U+50F5: BS
U+5149: BS
U+514B: BSS
U+518F: BS
U+51A2: BS
U+51AC: BS
U+51B1: BS
U+51C6: BSS
U+51CC: BS
U+51E0: BS
U+51F6: SB
U+51FA: BS
U+5212: BS
U+5228: BS
U+522E: BS
U+5236: BS
U+5238: bBT
U+5243: BS
U+5269: BBS
U+526F: BS
U+527D: BS
U+527F: BS
U+52D6: BS
U+52E4: BS
U+5343: bBS
U+5347: BSS
U+535C: BbS
U+5360: SB
U+5377: BBS
U+5382: BS
U+5384: BS
U+5398: BS
U+53CD: BS
U+53EA: BSS
U+53F0: BSSS
U+5401: BS
U+5403: BS
U+5408: BS
U+540A: BS
U+540C: bBS
U+540E: BS
U+5411: BSS
U+543B: BSB
U+5446: BS
U+5468: BS
U+5471: BT
U+5475: BTbb
U+547C: BBbS
U+548C: BSS
U+549D: BS
U+54B1: SB
U+54B8: BS
U+54BD: BS
U+54C4: BSS
U+5507: BS
U+5546: BS
U+5556: BSS
U+5582: BS
U+5591: BS
U+55A7: BS
U+563B: BS
U+566A: BS
U+56DE: BSSS
U+56F0: BS
U+572D: BS
U+5730: BS
U+5740: BS
U+574F: BbSS
U+5751: BS
U+5807: BSS
U+5824: BS
U+58D6: SB
U+590D: BSSb
U+5925: TB
U+592B: SB
U+592D: BS
U+5938: BS
U+5976: bbBbS
U+5978: BS
U+5996: BS
U+5999: BSB
U+59DC: BS
U+59F9: SB
U+5A18: BSS
U+5A49: SB
U+5B81: BSSbSSb
U+5B83: BS
U+5BB4: BS
U+5BB6: SB
U+5C38: BS
U+5C40: SBS
U+5CA9: BSSS
U+5CAD: BBS
U+5CB3: BS
U+5D0E: SBS
U+5D4F: BS
U+5DE8: BSb
U+5E03: SB
U+5E18: BS
U+5E19: BS
U+5E2D: BS
U+5E55: BS
U+5E72: SSBSSb
U+5E76: SSSBBS
U+5E78: SB
U+5E84: BSS
U+5E95: SB
U+5EFF: SB
U+5F04: BBS
U+5F26: BS
U+5F69: BS
U+5F81: BSS
U+5FA1: BS
U+5FAD: SB
U+5FB5: TTB
U+5FCF: BSS
U+5FD7: BS
U+5FF5: SB
U+601C: BS
U+604D: SB
U+6052: SB
U+6064: SBB
U+6096: BS
U+60E0: BBS
U+6108: BSS
U+6127: SB
U+613F: BS
U+6167: BS
U+6247: BS
U+624D: BS
U+624E: bbBbSSS
U+6251: BS
U+6258: BS
U+625B: BS
U+6263: BS
U+626F: BS
U+627C: BS
U+6298: BS
U+62AC: BS
U+62B5: bBbbS
U+62D0: BS
U+62DA: SB
U+633D: BS
U+6346: BS
U+634D: bBT
U+636E: BSS
U+63EA: BS
U+647A: TB
U+64B0: BS
U+6548: SBB
U+6597: BSSSSS
U+65A4: BbS
U+65C5: BS
U+65CB: BSb
U+65D7: SB
U+6606: SSB
U+6635: BS
U+6696: BS
U+6697: SBS
U+66F2: BBS
U+6717: BS
U+671B: BS
U+672C: TB
U+672D: SSbBbbb
U+6731: BS
U+6734: BS
U+6746: BS
U+6760: BS
U+676F: BSS
U+6770: SB
U+677E: BS
U+677F: BS
U+6781: BS
U+6784: SSBS
U+679C: BS
U+67DC: BS
U+67F1: BS
U+6816: SBS
U+6817: SB
U+6838: BS
U+6840: BS
U+6881: BS
U+68CB: BBS
U+68F0: BS
U+68F1: BS
U+68F9: bBS
U+6994: SB
U+699C: BS
U+69A8: SB
U+69B7: SB
U+6A3D: BS
U+6A90: BS
U+6A97: BS
U+6B32: SB
U+6BB7: SB
U+6BD7: BS
U+6C1B: BS
U+6C61: SBB
U+6C78: BS
U+6C88: BbS
U+6CBE: BS
U+6CC4: BSb
U+6CDB: SSB
U+6CDE: BS
U+6CE0: BS
U+6CE8: BS
U+6D01: BS
U+6D3C: BSS
U+6D3D: SB
U+6D59: BS
U+6D63: BS
U+6D69: BS
U+6D82: BSB
U+6D8C: BS
U+6DC0: BS
U+6DCB: BbSbb
U+6DEB: SB
U+6E05: SBB
U+6E38: BS
U+6EAA: BBS
U+6EAF: SBB
U+6F13: BS
U+6F2B: BS
U+6F3E: BS
U+6F84: SB
U+7095: SB
U+70AE: BSS
U+70B3: bSB
U+710A: BSS
U+7130: BBS
U+7167: SSB
U+71D5: BS
U+72F7: BS
U+72F8: BS
U+732C: BS
U+733F: BS
U+73C9: bBS
U+73F6: BT
U+7403: SB
U+7405: BS
U+7483: SBS
U+7487: SBS
U+74F6: BBS
U+753A: SB
U+754E: SB
U+75B1: BS
U+75C7: BS
U+75F1: SB
U+75F4: BS
U+75F9: SBS
U+7682: SB
U+768E: BS
U+7693: BSBS
U+7696: SB
U+772F: BS
U+7737: BS
U+773A: BS
U+777F: SB
U+77AD: TbB
U+77B0: BS
U+77E9: TB
U+7827: BS
U+786C: TB
U+7887: SB
U+788C: BS
U+7897: TBBS
U+78B0: SBS
U+7947: BS
U+79CB: BBS
U+79D8: SB
U+79FB: BS
U+7A11: BS
U+7A17: BS
U+7A57: BBS
U+7B2E: BS
U+7B51: BS
U+7B52: BS
U+7B56: BBS
U+7BA1: SB
U+7BAC: BS
U+7BEA: SB
U+7C97: BSBS
U+7CC7: BS
U+7CCA: BS
U+7CCD: BS
U+7CDF: BS
U+7CFB: SBSS
U+7D2F: BS
U+7DAE: SB
U+7E9B: BS
U+7F38: SB
U+7F50: BS
U+7F6E: SB
U+7F8E: SB
U+7FA1: BS
U+7FFB: SBB
U+8000: bSB
U+8003: SB
U+809B: SB
U+80B4: BS
U+80C4: SB
U+80CC: SB
U+80DC: SB
U+80E1: BS
U+80ED: BS
U+80F3: SB
U+814A: SBS
U+8198: BS
U+81BB: SB
U+81F4: SB
U+820D: SBB
U+82B1: BS
U+82B8: BS
U+82DF: SB
U+8303: SB
U+8347: BS
U+8349: SBS
U+8350: BS
U+83F0: TbB
U+83F1: BS
U+8431: BS
U+8457: TB
U+8499: SSSB
U+8511: BS
U+854A: SBBB
U+85AF: BS
U+85C9: TbB
U+85DC: SB
U+85E4: SB
U+85E9: SB
U+8616: SB
U+866C: BS
U+866E: BS
U+86B6: BS
U+86D4: SSB
U+8737: BS
U+8776: SB
U+8782: SB
U+8815: SB
U+8822: SB
U+8868: BS
U+8892: BS
U+88F8: SB
U+8C37: SB
U+8C46: SB
U+8D9F: BS
U+8DD6: BS
U+8E0A: BS
U+8E29: SB
U+8F9F: BbS
U+8FA8: bbBS
U+8FE4: SB
U+903E: SB
U+9041: BS
U+90C1: SBSS
U+916C: SBBB
U+91C7: SB
U+91CC: SSB
U+91CE: SB
U+962A: TB
U+9676: SB
U+9699: TB
U+96C1: BS
U+96C7: SB
U+96CD: BS
U+96D5: bSBS
U+9709: BS
U+9713: SB
U+9762: BSSS
U+99A8: BS
U+9B03: bSbB
U+9B41: SB
U+9D02: BS
U+9EBB: bSbBB
U+9F39: SB
U+9F96: BS

Regards,

--
Yoshiro YONEYA <yoshiro.yoneya at jprs.co.jp>

On Thu, 30 Apr 2015 23:44:32 +0800 Íõΰ <wangwei at cnic.cn> wrote:

> Dear All
> 
> CGP updates the code points and variants in CGP-MSS, which will be 
> used as CGP LGR1 to coordinate with J and K.
> 
> Please find the attached XML file generated by Mr. QI Chao.
> Also, we provide a readable EXCEL version for your review.
> 
> Please feel free to give your comments
> 
> 
> Best Regards
> Wang Wei
> 
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> ·¢ËÍʱ¼ä: 2015Äê4ÔÂ27ÈÕ 10:15
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> 'JapaneseGP at icann.org'
> Ö÷Ìâ: ´ð¸´: [ChineseGP] Proposed Action items before Seoul meeting
> 
> Dear ALL
> 
> For CGP, ToDo-6 has been done.
> 
> ToDo-7 will be sent out after double check this week.
> 
> 
> 
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> ´ú
> ±í HiroHOTTA
> ·¢ËÍʱ¼ä: 2015Äê4ÔÂ26ÈÕ 1:05
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> Ö÷Ìâ: [ChineseGP] Proposed Action items before Seoul meeting
> 
> Dear colleagues in CGP/JGP/KGP,
> 
> If I may, in order for us to make our Seoul meeting efficient and 
> fruitful, I'd like to propose what each of us is expected to prepare 
> well before the meeting.
> 
> I know I am very pushy but I think at least we must not use our 
> precious time just to understand the information in front of us for a long
time.
> 
> Please give comments and let's discuss online about the ToDo's before 
> Seoul meeting .
> 
> ==
> 
> [[Premise]]
> 
> ToDo-1 <must>     Each participant understands what RootLGR is and 
>                   what is expected for GPs to do.
> 
> ToDo-2 <must>     Each participant understands Yoneya's algorithm 
>                   that was already sent to CGP/JGP/KGP by Yoneya and 
>                   also agreed by C and J in Dallas, which is attached 
>                   to this mail as well
> 
> ToDo-3 <must>     Each participant understands MSS concept that was 
>                   already sent to  CGP/JGP/KGP by Dr. Wang Wei, which 
>                   is attached to this mail along with HiroHOTTA's 
>                   response
> 
> ToDo-4 <expected> Participants agree on Yoneya's algorithm as a 
>                   framework and also agree on partial usage of MSS 
>                   to accelerate our discussion ("partial" means 
>                   "J doesn't need to be considered to be incorporated 
>                   into MSS")   This is expected to be discussed and 
>                   finalized online before our meeting
> 
> [[Integration Algorithm]]
> 
> ToDo-5 <expected> J gets IP's feedback on Yoneya's algorithm
> 
> [[MSS/LGR-1]]
> 
> ToDo-6 <must>     C prepares MSS repertoire, which may be 
>                   equivalent to Chinese LGR-1 repertoire   (done?)
> 
> ToDo-7 <expected> C prepares Chinese variants within MSS, which may 
>                   be equivalent to Chinese LGR-1 (planned date is 
>                   expected to be declared, if not in time for the 
>                   meeting)
> 
> ToDo-8 <must>     J prepares Japanese LGR-1 repertoire and variants
>                      (there's no variants in Japanese LGR-1 : they 
>                       were already sent to CGP/JGP/KGP)
>  
> ToDo-9 <must>     K prepares the basic idea of Korean LGR-1 repertoire 
>                   and variants
> 
> ToDo-10<expected> K prepares Korean LGR-1 repertoire and variants  
>                   (planned date is expected to be declared, ift 
>                    LGR-1 does not come in time for the meeting)
> 
> ToDo-11<expected> each of CGP/JGP/KGP assesses the repertoires and 
>                   variants that have already been provided by other 
>                   GPs as far as possible
> 
> [[Logistics/etc.]]
> 
> ToDo-12<must>     each CGP/JGP/KGP Chair designates a person in charge 
>                   of ToDo-5 to ToDo-11 well in advance to the meeting 
>                   (expected to post the (names) in replying this mail 
>                   by May 1st)  - this may accelerate the coordination 
>                   a lot
> 
> ToDo-13<must>     convener fixes the agenda through consultation with 
>                   CJK colleagues  (Hiro is pleased to behave as the 
>                   convener until someone will raise his/her hand)
> 
> Hiro
> 
> 
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