[ChineseGP] [Japanesegp] 答?: Characters likely to cause offence

[HiroHOTTA]

Dear Sarmad,

This issue may depend on the scope of the RootLGR project mandate.
If I may, I'd like to ask the following question to ICANN.

Question here :
  Providing, a character in Han script means 'lucky' and is sometimes 
  used in strings in CJK area. The character has visual similarity to 
  a symbol that could be abused by people outside CJK area.
  In this case, should such character be removed from CJK repertoire?
  Who will decide the removal of the character, and how?
  Is such removal decision within the scope of RootLGR project? (not 
  within the scope of gTLD application evaluation panels along with 
  public objection appeals?)

Regards,
Hiro


On Tue, 12 May 2015 12:19:11 +0900
HiroHOTTA <hotta at jprs.co.jp> wrote:
> I agree that GPs had better not try to touch on this kind of 
> cross-cultural issues. 
> 
> I agree to leave this issue to IP, but I suspect IP can solve 
> that.
> 
> If this kind of judgement (i.e., not a script/language-based 
> judgement, but a judgement considering other cultures) is 
> needed, it is likely beyond the ability of RootLGR project. 
> Even IP cannot solve such issues, I believe.
> 
> In my understanding, such kind of judgement should be done in 
> the evaluation phase of a TLD application with possible 
> objection mechanism. We should not try to make RootLGR solve 
> all the potential issues we can imagine.
> 
> Hiro
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 12 May 2015 10:40:21 +0800
> "Edmon Chung" <edmon at registry.asia> wrote:
> > Agree with Wangwei.
> > Edmon
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: chinesegp-bounces at icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces at icann.org] On
> > > Behalf Of ??
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 10:35 AM
> > > To: 'Yoshiro YONEYA'; 'Dillon, Chris'
> > > Cc: KoreanGP at icann.org; ChineseGP at icann.org; JapaneseGP at icann.org
> > > Subject: [ChineseGP] 答?: Characters likely to cause offence
> > > 
> > > I guess both of 卍and ? (swastika, ????????) were imported into Chinese
> > > characters from ancient India Buddhism hundreds years ago Both of them mean
> > > something like luck or fortune in east Asia. Most western people don’t know them
> > > until one of them was borrowed by Nazi.
> > > 
> > > What about  leave the problem to IP or policy guys. Let's finish repertoire, variant
> > > coordination and generation rules first.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----?件原件-----
> > > ?件人: chinesegp-bounces at icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces at icann.org] 代
> > > 表 Yoshiro YONEYA
> > > ?送??: 2015年5月12日 9:55
> > > 收件人: Dillon, Chris
> > > 抄送: ChineseGP at icann.org; KoreanGP at icann.org; JapaneseGP at icann.org
> > > 主?: Re: [ChineseGP] Characters likely to cause offence
> > > 
> > > Dear Chris-san,
> > > 
> > > > I suspect there may be other characters in there that could cause
> > > > offence, but ? 5350 could be horribly abused. I realize that the character it
> > > represents is used innocently in temples.
> > > 
> > > The reason why this character (U+5350) is in J-LGR-2 is that this is defined as
> > > variant of U+534D in C-LGR-1.  U+534D is in
> > > J-LGR-1 repertoire, so it was integrated into J-LGR-2 by proposed integration
> > > algorithm.
> > > 
> > > As you see in J-LGR-2.xlsx, U+5350 is marked as (o) or (b), so it will never appear
> > > on Root zone if it is used in applied-for string as Japanese IDN TLD.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Yoshiro YONEYA <yoshiro.yoneya at jprs.co.jp>
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 11 May 2015 14:02:14 +0000 "Dillon, Chris" <c.dillon at ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Dear Yoneya-san,
> > > >
> > > > I mentioned in my last email that one of the things I found in J-LGR-2.xlsx was of
> > > a more serious nature.
> > > >
> > > > I suspect there may be other characters in there that could cause
> > > > offence, but ? 5350 could be horribly abused. I realize that the character it
> > > represents is used innocently in temples.
> > > >
> > > > It is not our responsibility to make decisions about cases such as
> > > > this and as far as I know, no part of the existing system deals with
> > > > them. However, having observed long discussion over cases such as .xxx
> > > and .sucks, alarm bells do go off and one feels one should draw 5350 to the
> > > attention of colleagues.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Chris.
> > > > --
> > > > Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital
> > > > Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int
> > > > 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
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