[ChineseGP] review solicitation: Terminology for CJK coordination committee and IP (v0.5)

Tue Jun 23 16:35:20 UTC 2015

Dear colleagues,

They are right when they say there is a lot in a name!

Longer names may help those unfamiliar with the differences:

J-LGR-orig
CJK-LGR-merged
J-LGR-postmerge

People from the north of the UK are famous for “calling a spade a spade”…

Regards,

Chris.
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From: Ryan TAN <ryan at sgnic.sg<mailto:ryan at sgnic.sg>>
Date: Tuesday, 23 June 2015 13:14
To: Edmon Chung <edmon at registry.asia<mailto:edmon at registry.asia>>, 'Yoshiro YONEYA' <yoshiro.yoneya at jprs.co.jp<mailto:yoshiro.yoneya at jprs.co.jp>>, "IntegrationPanel at icann.org<mailto:IntegrationPanel at icann.org>" <IntegrationPanel at icann.org<mailto:IntegrationPanel at icann.org>>, "ChineseGP at icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP at icann.org>" <ChineseGP at icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP at icann.org>>, "JapaneseGP at icann.org<mailto:JapaneseGP at icann.org>" <JapaneseGP at icann.org<mailto:JapaneseGP at icann.org>>, "KoreanGP at icann.org<mailto:KoreanGP at icann.org>" <KoreanGP at icann.org<mailto:KoreanGP at icann.org>>, Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain at icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain at icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [ChineseGP] review solicitation: Terminology for CJK coordination committee and IP (v0.5)

Understood. LGR-CJK(C) etc, might help but I'm ok with your suggestion.

I just didn't quite like the use of 'beta', which might give a different impression.

On 23 June, 2015 12:59:06 PM GMT-03:00, Edmon Chung <edmon at registry.asia<mailto:edmon at registry.asia>> wrote:

LGR-2 is not quite LGR-CJK.
You may have mistaken -2 to be -M

I spent some time thinking through it.  I started down the path you
suggested Ryan, but I think we should have something more generic... so I
suggest:

LGR-1 --> LGR-X
LGR-2 --> LGR-Y

Because we are really talking about LGR-X(zh) / LGR-X(ja) / LGR-X(ko) AND
LGR-Y(zh) / LGR Y(ja) / LGR-Y(ko).

"FINAL" LGR-Y would be eventually the one that is submitted to IP and the
zh/ja/ko versions will be different.

Edmon

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 From: Ryan Tan YH [mailto:ryan at sgnic.sg]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 11:40 PM
 To: Yoshiro YONEYA; IntegrationPanel at icann.org<mailto:IntegrationPanel at icann.org>; ChineseGP at icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP at icann.org>;
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sarmad.hussain at icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain at icann.org>
 Subject: Re: [ChineseGP] review solicitation: Terminology for CJK
coordination
 committee and IP (v0.5)

 Hi all,

 Perhaps we can rename them as:
 - LGR-A [sub defined as LGR-A(C), LGr-A(J) and LGR-A(K) if there's merit
to be
 more specific for ease of reference]
 - LGR-CJK

 Regards,
 Ryan

 Yoshiro YONEYA wrote on 23/6/2015 10:50 PM:
 Dear IP members, CJK GP members, Edmon and Sarmad,

 Please review following terminology text.  I'd like to finalize the
 text at Thursday !
 meeting.
 Marc gave me a suggestion to use LGR-alpha
 and LGR-beta instead of LGR-1 and LGR-2.  It seems more generic term
 representing the development status of LGR.
 Your comments, suggestions and refinements are very welcome.

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 Terminology for CJK coordination committee and IP (v0.5)

 Background

 CGP, JGP, and KGP are collaborating to create Root zone LGR for CJK.
CJK
 GPs' collaboration is not limited to among us, but also involving IP and
ICANN.
 For the efficiency and the good
progress, we should have common
terminology
 definition for key concepts.

 Terminology

 (1) Script
 Based on Unicode, script is a collection of letters and other written
signs used
 to represent textual information in one or more writing systems.  Ex. Han,
 Hiragana, Katakana and Hangul.

 (2) Chinese script, Japanese script, Korean script
 Script(s) used in the language.  Chinese script is Han, Japanese scr!
 ipt
is a
 mixture of Han, Hiragana and Katakana, and Korean script is a mixture of
Han
 and Hangul.
 In Root zone LGR context, Chinese script, Japanese script and Korean
script
 are equivalent to und-hani, und-jpan and und-kore respectively.  Here,
hani, jpan
 and kore are terms fro!
 m ISO
15924.

 (3) Disposition
 Result of whole level evaluation (WLE). Disposition is assigned to a
label, not to
 a character. In general, the Root zone process only allows the two
dispositions
 'allocatable' and 'blocked' (as well as 'invalid' for labels that are not
valid at all). It
 is not possible to add new dispositions other than 'allocatable',
'blocked' and
 'invalid'. Label disposition assigned as a result of WLE cannot be
reassigned.

 (4) Variant type, variant subtype
 Variant type is an attribute of a variant, which indicates the treatment
of the
 variant in WLE.  Variant type is one of (A) allocatable, (B) blocked, and
(C) out of
 repertoire var.  Variant subtype is a variation of vari!
 ant type
with
certain limitation.
 For example, in Chinese script, variant type "allocatable" are substituted
by
 "simp" (stands for simplified), "trad" (stands for "traditional") and
"both" (stands for
 both simplified and traditional) subtypes.  The variant subtype can be
defined by
 each GP.  Each variant type and variant subtype has to have one or more
 corresponding <action> element in WLE.

 (5) LGR-1
 LGR-1 is an LGR defined by each GP for CJK integration purpose.  Each
CJK
 GP can define LGR-1 independently from each other.  LGR-1 must consist of
 language tag (one of und-hani, und-jpan, and und-kore), repertoire of
allowed
 characters for applied-for label, variants of each character where variant
type
 (and variant subtype if necessary) is associated with each variant
characters, and
 WLE.  The variant type must not have "out of repertoire var".  LGR-1 is an
 intermediate product and it is not a final proposal of each GP.  The

development
of LGR-1 can be cyclic. Once CJK GPs generate each LGR-2, each GP assess
it and modify LGR-1 if necessary. This cycle can be repeated until all
CJK GPs
get conclusion.

(6) LGR-2
LGR-2 is a LGR generated by LGR-1 integration process. LGR-2 is
generated
for each Chinese/Japanese/Korean script. The differences between each
LGR-2
are (A) language tag, (B) repertoire, and (C) variant type (including
variant
subtype) of each variant. The set of variants and WLE are common between
LGR-2s. Once each CJK GP concluded their LGR-1, the generated LGR-2 to be
a final proposal of them.

NOTE:
THESE TERMINOLOGY DEFINITIONS ARE VERY PRELIMINARY AND ARE
NOT EXHAUSTIVE. THIS IS PREPARED FOR! (Y)OUR REVIEW.

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Regards,

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