[ChineseGP] comments (4) RE: C-LGR (2016.07.20.), Q7
KIM Kyongsok
gimgs0 at gmail.com
Wed Jul 20 14:49:37 UTC 2016
Dear Mr. Wang Wei:
Thanks for your quick response.
On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 2:07 AM, 王伟 <wangwei at cnic.cn> wrote:
> Dear Prof. Kim
>
> Thanks for your review which help find out some editorial errors.
>
> I noticed that you compared the current table with 2015.04.30,
> which was already replaced by CGP LGR 20160612
> before the ICANN Helsinki meeting.
> The rational of the repertoire extension was explained
> in the attached WORD document.
I fully understand your repertoire extension.
I checked each of CGP LGR 20160612, CGP LGR 20160718, and CGP LGR
20160720 against LGR 20150430.
> To your question Q1, the sequencing of "朦(6726)䑃(4443)"
> has been changed to "䑃(4443)朦(6726)"
> To your question Q3, MSS --> CCC, yes,
> it is an editorial mistake that replace the "CCC" by "MSS" automatically.
> To your question Q4, yes, the parentheses has been changed into ASCII format in the attached new version.
RE: Q1, Q3, and Q4: Great. Thanks.
> To your question Q2, your number is correct.
Great. Thanks.
I hope that correct numbers of characters and variant groups will be
incorporated into the "revised" CGP Proposal Draft 20160613.docx
later.
> To your question Q5, those characters went through
> review process last year and were set as independent chars.
I see. I wll summarize my understanding below:
1) The two var. groups dropped.
1a) formerly vg (5CAB 岫, 5CC0 峀) --> Now, 2 independent chars. 諝 8ADD
1b) formerly vg of size 3: (O 5999 妙, X 7385 玅, O 7AD7 竗)
--> Now, split into ONE indep. char. 竗(7AD7) and
ONE var. group of size 2 composed of (妙 5999, 玅 7385).
2) Three new var. groups created (added) in C-LGR 2016.06.12.)
2a) (O 7200 爀) (O 8D6B 赫): a new vg of size 2
2b) (O 757A 畺) (O 7586 疆): a new vg. of size 2
2c) formerly, ONE independent char 㥠(3960) and
one var. group of size 2 composed of ( 諝 8ADD, 谞 8C1E)
--> Now, a new vg of size 3 (3960 㥠, 8ADD 諝, X 8C1E 谞).
Plz correct me if I am wrong.
> After Helsinki meeting, the IP reminds that㩜(3A5C) and墵(58B5) are out of MSR scope, so I also take them away for the time being.
I see. Thanks. I will label it Q6 (although it is not my question..)
Q7. TWO minor typos on page 5 of file <CGP Proposal Draft 20160613.docx>.
1)
"한자 Hanjia"
-->
"한자 Hanja" (without "i")
2)
and Hanjia are both therefore covered by CGP.
-->
and Hanja are both therefore covered by CGP. (without "i")
Thanks again.
Rgds,
KIM, K.
>
> Please refer the attached new version of repertoire and variants.
>
>
> Regards
> WANG Wei
>
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: KIM Kyongsok [mailto:gimgs0 at gmail.com]
> 发送时间: 2016年7月19日 15:47
> 收件人: 王伟 <wangwei at cnic.cn>
> 抄送: chinesegp at icann.org; JapaneseGP at icann.org; koreanGP at icann.org; KIM Kyongsok <gimgs0 at gmail.com>
> 主题: Re: comments (3) RE: C-LGR (2016.07.18.), Q4 and Q5.
>
> Dear Mr. Wang Wei:
>
> I am making progress ^-^ and noticed some more errors/changes.
>
>
> ================================================================
> Q3 (My previous message RE: MSS --> CCC)
>
> =================================================================
>
> Q4. This seems minor too. I notices that CJK compatibility paren was used instead of regular ASCII paren. There were 2 occurrences in one line.
>
> I would like to suggest that
> "）" (CJK compatibility paren) --> ")" (ASCII paren).
> [ 2 occurrences in one line]
>
> 83B5 莵 菟(83DF） 菟(83DF） 莵(83B5)菟(83DF)
> -->
> 83B5 莵 菟(83DF) 菟(83DF) 莵(83B5)菟(83DF)
>
>
> =================================================================
> Q5: I compared variant groups in C-LGR (2015.04.30.) and vg in C-LGR
> (2016.07.18.) and
> noticed some two variant groups (vg) were removed and three new vg are added.
>
> I would like to know whether these removals are mistakes or not and
> whether additions are really intended.
>
> 1) [removal] existed in C-LGR (2015.04.30.); now missing in C-LGR (2016.07.18.)
>
> 1a)
> < 2 2 (O 5CAB 岫) (O 5CC0 峀): vg
>
> ===>
>
>> 5CAB 岫 岫(5CAB) 岫(5CAB) 岫(5CAB): indep. char.
>> 5CC0 峀 峀(5CC0) 峀(5CC0) 峀(5CC0): indep. char.
>
> 1b)
> < 3 2 (O 5999 妙) (X 7385 玅) (O 7AD7 竗): vg of size 3 (3 variants)
>
> ===>
>
>> 5999 妙 妙(5999) 妙(5999) 妙(5999)玅(7385): vg of size 2
>> 7385 玅 妙(5999) 玅(7385) 妙(5999)玅(7385): vg of size 2
>> 7AD7 竗 竗(7AD7) 竗(7AD7) 竗(7AD7) : indep. char.
>
> 2) [addition] did NOT exist in C-LGR (2015.04.30.); now added to C-LGR
> (2016.07.18.)
>
> 2a)
>
> < 7200 爀 爀(7200) 爀(7200) : indep. char.
> < 8D6B 赫 赫(8D6B) 赫(8D6B) : indep. char.
>
> ===>
>
>> 2 2 (O 7200 爀) (O 8D6B 赫) : a new vg of size 2
>
> 2b)
>
> < 757A 畺 畺(757A) 畺(757A) : indep. char.
> < 7586 疆 疆(7586) 疆(7586) : indep. charf.
>
> ===>
>
>> 2 2 (O 757A 畺) (O 7586 疆) : a new vg. of size 2
>
> 2C)
> < 3960 㥠 㥠(3960) 㥠(3960) : indep. char.
> < 8ADD 諝 谞(8C1E) 諝(8ADD) : a vg. of size 2
> < 8ADD 諝 谞(8C1E) 諝(8ADD) : a vg. of size 2
>
> ===>
>
>> 3 2 (O 3960 㥠) (O 8ADD 諝) (X 8C1E 谞) : a new vg of size 3
>
> * * *
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> KIM, K.
>
> -------------------------------
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:04 AM, KIM Kyongsok <gimgs0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear Mr. Wang Wei:
>>
>> I seem to have found some minor errors in your C-LGR (2016.07.18.)
>>
>> In 9 lines (24 occurrences), MSS need be changed to CCC.
>> One sample line is shown below:
>>
>> 5MSS 峌 峌(5MSS) 峌(5MSS) 峌(5MSS)
>> -->
>> 5CCC 峌 峌(5CCC) 峌(5CCC) 峌(5CCC)
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> KIM, K.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 7:01 PM, 王伟 <wangwei at cnic.cn> wrote:
>>> Dear Prof. Kim
>>>
>>> I checked these chars and confirm that there are some coding error/editorial error in the EXCEL
>>> I have re-edited them in the attached document.
>>>
>>> Also, I excluded the char of 58B5 which is not in MSR.
>>>
>>> So please refer the latest version as attached.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> WANG Wei
>>>
>>>
>>> -----邮件原件-----
>>> 发件人: chinesegp-bounces at icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces at icann.org]
>>> 代表 KIM Kyongsok
>>> 发送时间: 2016年7月17日 22:26
>>> 收件人: chinesegp at icann.org
>>> 抄送: JapaneseGP at icann.org; koreanGP at icann.org; KIM Kyongsok
>>> <gimgs0 at gmail.com>
>>> 主题: [ChineseGP] comments (1) RE: C-LGR (2016.06.12.)
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Wang:
>>>
>>> I started analyzing your variant groups published on 2016.06.12.
>>>
>>> I seem to have found some errors and will appreciate if you would check two issues described below.
>>>
>>> ====================================================
>>> Q1. The following six variant groups seem to have some errors:
>>>
>>> --- 1
>>> cvg_0: (5378) 缷(7F37)
>>> cvg_0:卸(5378) 缷(7F37)
>>>
>>> --- 2
>>> cvg_0: (5AD4) 嬪(5B2A)
>>> cvg_0:嫔(5AD4) 嬪(5B2A)
>>>
>>> --- 3
>>> cvg_0:䑃(4443) 朦(6726) OOO (sorted)
>>> cvg_0:朦(6726) 䑃(4443) XXX (NOT sorted, minor)
>>>
>>> --- 4
>>> cvg_0:击(51FB) (6483) 擊(64CA)
>>> cvg_0:击(51FB) 撃(6483) 擊(64CA)
>>> cvg_0:击(51FB) 撃(6483) 擊(64CA)
>>>
>>> --- 5
>>> cvg_0: (5378) 缷(7F37)
>>> cvg_0:卸(5378) 缷(7F37)
>>>
>>> --- 6
>>> cvg_0:沣(6CA3) (7043)
>>> cvg_0:沣(6CA3) 灃(7043)
>>>
>>>
>>> ======================================================
>>> Q2. I wonder if the following information RE: 3103 variant groups is correct. I will appreciate if you would check it.
>>>
>>>> Among 19738 characters, 3103 of them have non-reflexive variant
>>>> character(s), including 2214 with 1 variant, 545 with 2 variants,
>>>> 200 with 3 variants, 89 with 4 variants, 36 with 5 variants,
>>>> 14 with 6 variants, 4 with 7 variants, 1 with 8 variants.
>>>
>>> - Based on your info, there should be 3103 variant groups and 12075 independent char (i.e., char with NO variant).
>>>
>>> - However, my initial "rough" analysis of <column G, All Variant
>>> Mappings> of Appendix C file seems quite different from your numbers
>>> (i.e., 3103 var. groups and 12075 indep. chars):
>>>
>>> a) # indep. chars: 11684 (<-- your number is 12075), diff = 391
>>> b) # var. groups: 3518 (<-- your number is 3103), diff = 415
>>>
>>> Plz correct me if I am wrong.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Rgds,
>>>
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