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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">Dear Professor Zhang,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">Thank you for your email. I think it's a good idea, as you suggest, that the CGP works on the reasoning in areas such as the issue of large numbers of labels, "variant",
"</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">异体字</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">" and "</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">变体字</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">"
in Chinese for the next two meetings. Once the reasoning is clear, it's easy to translate, and I'm happy to help make the translation smooth English.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">Two of the characters in the list you gave raise interesting issues:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">1.
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">亊</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">U+4E8A is an unofficial form; I don't think it appeared in pre-War Japanese government tables. The official form was the same as the modern form:
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">事</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">U+4E8B.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">2.
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">礦</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">U+7926: In Japanese,
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">鉱</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif""> is a
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">常用漢字</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif""> (in the Min. of Education's list).
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">礦</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">U+7926 is not in the
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">常用漢字</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif""> list and is regarded as
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">旧字体</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif""> (old character form).
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">砿</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">U+783F is not in the
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">常用漢字</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif""> list and regarded as a
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">拡張新字体</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif""> (expanded new form). As you know, when simplification was done in Japan only the characters
in the </span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">常用漢字</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif""> list were simplified. Those outside it exist as old forms or expanded new forms.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">Chris.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599)
<a href="http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon"><span style="color:#0563C1">www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon</span></a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> chinesegp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>ZhangJoe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 22 September 2014 02:14<br>
<b>To:</b> ChineseGP@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ChineseGP] Again<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"">，</span>CJK Variants<br>
<b>Importance:</b> High<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">再说变体字，</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt">CGP-JGP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Date</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">：</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">2014-09-20~21<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">To: ICANN/CGP members<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From: Zhang Zhoucai <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Subject : Again</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">，</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Variants Definition & Concept
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Note</span></u><u><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">：我现在没有时间将此文改写为英文，同时，用英文有的地方也难以表达。抱歉暂时如此。</span></u><u><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">首先，我觉得对于这个“变体字”的基本概念、基本术语还缺少沟通、缺少共识。虽然英文都是</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Variant</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">，但在我们</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">TLD
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">的范畴内，概念已经变了，不再是传统说法的“异体字”了。不知哪位先生从何时起翻译为“变体字”了，</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Chris
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">建议英文</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Lexical Alternate</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">，也是比较接近的。这种表达是明智的，避免了很多政治性问题，更加符合我们项目的实际了。</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">在讨论</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Mapping, Allocattable/Block</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">之前，建议我们彻底把</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Chinese
Variants/CJK Variants</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">的定义概念讨论清楚。</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">因此，<span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">建议下次双周电话会议工作语言用中文</span>，起码先在说中文的组员中形成共识。我写的那个</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">CJK Variant</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">定义稿建议可以当靶子讨论。</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">这不是</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Variant</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">广义</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">/</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">侠义的问题，而是“转义”了：对中文而言，本来简体</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">/</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">繁体谁也不认为是</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Variant</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">，大陆不以为然，港台也不以为然，现在都同意了是“变体”；有的异体字，两岸就是互为正异的，在</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">TLD
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">没必要争论孰正孰异，比如</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:SimSun">决</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">U+51B3</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">和</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:SimSun">決</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">U+6C7A</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">，反正对应了，音和义都一样，互为变体字。扩大到</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">CJK</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">，主要是</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">C-J</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">，跨语境了，过去从来没人定义过跨语境的异体字，但客观上是存在着对应关系的，只不过现在靠“同音</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">+</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">同义”判断不行了，只能靠“同义”</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">+</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">“同源同用”来界定。这样的</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">CJK</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">变体字可能会有很多，但从</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">TLD</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">的角度，我们可以只选择那些常用的、高频的，还有易混淆的汉字编成</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">CJK
</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">变体字组。</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:SimSun">下面是一些常用</span></u><u><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:SimSun">CJK Variants<span lang="ZH-CN">的实例</span></span></u><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:SimSun">。</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:SimSun"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">Hans-----HanT-----Jpan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">事</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+4E8B</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">事</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">4E8B</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">亊</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+4E8A<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">处</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+5904</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">處</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">8655</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">処</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+51E6<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">壤</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+58E4</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">壤</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">58E4</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">壌</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+58CC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">对</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+5BF9</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">對</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">5C0D</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">対</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+5BFE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">专</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+4E13</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">專</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">5C08</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">専</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+5C02<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">恼</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+607C</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">惱</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">60F1</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">悩</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+60A9<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">插</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+63D2</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">插</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">63D2</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">挿</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+633F<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">曾</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+66FE</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">曾</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">66FE</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">曽</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+66FD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">樱</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+6A31</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">櫻</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">6AFB</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">桜</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+685C<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">栈</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+6808</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">棧</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">68E7</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">桟</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+685F<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">气</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+6C14</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">氣</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">6C23</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">気</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+6C17<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">焰</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+7130</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">焰</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">7130</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">焔</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+7114<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">烧</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+70E7</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">燒</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">71D2</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">焼</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+713C<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">兽</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+517D<span lang="ZH-CN">獸</span>U+7378<span lang="ZH-CN">獣</span>U+7363<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">瘦</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+7626</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">瘦</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">7626</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">痩</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+75E9
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">发</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+53D1</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">發</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">767C</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">発</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+767A<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">矿</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+77FF</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">礦</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">7926</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">砿</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+783F<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">团</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+56E2</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">團</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">5718</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">団</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+56E3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">脑</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+8111</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">腦</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">8166</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">脳</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+8133<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">图</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+56FE</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">圖</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">5716</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">図</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+56F3</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">厅</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+5385<span lang="ZH-CN">廳</span>U+5EF3<span lang="ZH-CN">庁</span>U+5E81<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">稳</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+7A33</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">穩</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">7A69</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">穏</span><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:SimSun">U+7A4F<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">在中文变体字组中引入日文变体字（主要是日文新字体字）有利也有弊。弊端是带来了异体字组的复杂性，但我们选择高频常用字来关联应当可以减少复杂性；有利的方面是，第一，扩大了</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">TLD Label<span lang="ZH-CN">的国际性，第二，也可以避免有意无意或恶意的域名混淆。</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">以图书馆为例：</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">图书馆</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">圖書館</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="high-light-bg4"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">図書館</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="high-light-bg4"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">圗</span></span><span class="high-light-bg4"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">
<span lang="ZH-CN">舘</span><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="high-light-bg4"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">啚</span></span><span class="high-light-bg4"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="high-light-bg4"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">其中 图有</span></span><span class="high-light-bg4"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">5<span lang="ZH-CN">个</span>Variants<span lang="ZH-CN">（不算日文図是</span>4<span lang="ZH-CN">个）</span>,<span lang="ZH-CN">书有两个</span>Variants,<span lang="ZH-CN">馆有</span>3<span lang="ZH-CN">个</span>Variants(<span lang="ZH-CN">从文字学角度远比此数字多</span>)<span lang="ZH-CN">；</span><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="high-light-bg4"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">可能的</span></span><span class="high-light-bg4"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">Label<span lang="ZH-CN">组合不算日文有</span>4*2*3=24<span lang="ZH-CN">个，算上日文有</span>
5*2*3=30<span lang="ZH-CN">个。根据各国家地区的实际应用和频度，刨除“</span>ill-formed string<span lang="ZH-CN">”</span>,<span lang="ZH-CN">实际</span>Allocatable Labels<span lang="ZH-CN">可能只有这三个：</span></span></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">图书馆</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">for
hans<span lang="ZH-CN">，</span></span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">圖書館
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">for hant <span lang="ZH-CN">
，<span class="high-light-bg4"><span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">図</span>書館</span></span><span class="high-light-bg4">for jpan<span lang="ZH-CN">。</span><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="high-light-bg4"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">同样的例子，</span></span><span class="high-light-bg4"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="high-light-bg4"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">医学会</span></span><span class="high-light-bg4"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">for hans
</span></span><span class="high-light-bg4"><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">醫學會</span></span><span class="high-light-bg4"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">for hant
<span lang="ZH-CN">医学会 </span>for jpan <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="ordinary-output" style="background:white"><span class="high-light-bg4"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt">音乐艺术</span></span><span class="high-light-bg4"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> for hans
</span></span><span class="high-light-bg4"><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">音樂藝術</span></span><span class="high-light-bg4"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">for hant
</span></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt">音<span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">楽芸</span>術</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">for jpan
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="ordinary-output" style="background:white"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt">开发</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">for hans
</span><span lang="ZH-TW" style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">開發</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">for hant
<span class="high-light-bg4"><span lang="ZH-CN">開発</span> for jpan</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">类似这样的</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">CJK Variants
<span lang="ZH-CN">衍生的</span>CJK Variant Labels<span lang="ZH-CN">，视为一个</span>TLD entity<span lang="ZH-CN">好呢？还是多个</span>entity
<span lang="ZH-CN">好？这里的利弊需要在</span>CGP<span lang="ZH-CN">–</span>JGP<span lang="ZH-CN">讨论</span>,<span lang="ZH-CN">也需要</span>ICANN<span lang="ZH-CN">的总策略来决定。</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">我们可以注意到，在跨语境的情形，</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">Varian
<span lang="ZH-CN">的对称性</span>symmetry<span lang="ZH-CN">和可传递性</span>transivity <span lang="ZH-CN">
在绝大多数情况是成立的。</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">个别的非对称、不可传递的问题，多半与上下文有关，这种情况是极其个别的，如发</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun">-<span lang="ZH-CN">發</span>-<span class="high-light-bg4"><span lang="ZH-CN">発</span></span><span lang="ZH-CN">
与髪的关系，需要人为处理，不应总为这种个例影响总体的规则的讨论。</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"">发件人</span></b><b><span style="font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"">:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif""> chinesegp-bounces@icann.org
[mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] <b><span lang="ZH-CN">代表 </span></b>ZhangJoe<br>
<b><span lang="ZH-CN">发送时间</span>:</b> 2014<span lang="ZH-CN">年</span>9<span lang="ZH-CN">月</span>1<span lang="ZH-CN">日</span> 18:53<br>
<b><span lang="ZH-CN">收件人</span>:</b> 'Wang Wei'; ChineseGP@icann.org<br>
<b><span lang="ZH-CN">主题</span>:</b> [ChineseGP] Proposed CJK Variants Definition<br>
<b><span lang="ZH-CN">重要性</span>:</b> <span lang="ZH-CN">高</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Dear Colleagues,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Enclosed please find the proposed CJK Variants Definition for discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Zhang Zhoucai<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org">chinesegp-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org">mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b><span lang="ZH-CN">代表 </span></b>Wang Wei<br>
<b><span lang="ZH-CN">发送时间</span>:</b> 2014<span lang="ZH-CN">年</span>8<span lang="ZH-CN">月</span>25<span lang="ZH-CN">日</span> 15:32<br>
<b><span lang="ZH-CN">收件人</span>:</b> <a href="mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org">ChineseGP@icann.org</a><br>
<b><span lang="ZH-CN">主题</span>:</b> [ChineseGP] Memo of CGP Fortnightly Meeting 21st August<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dear colleagues and Hanchuan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:#1F497D"> Thanks for attending the second fortnightly meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="text-indent:21.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">We need to fulfill the following tasks before the next meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:39.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="color:#1F497D">Discuss CGP repertoire slimming plan within the CGP and with CDNC.
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="color:#1F497D">Redefine the “variant”. It would be appreciated that Prof. Zhang give a general and compatible definition of “variant”, which can be well suitable for C, J and K, helping J and
K understand the situation better.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="color:#1F497D">Provide the final version to IP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="color:#1F497D">Provide some coordination examples on variants mapping to Japan and Korea communities (mainly to J). Qichao and Zhiwei will figure out these examples and let Kenny share it to
JGP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:21.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D">Please feel free to let me know if there is anything I forget to note.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:#1F497D">Wang Wei<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org">chinesegp-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org">mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Wang Wei<br>
Sent: 08 August 2014 02:46<br>
To: <a href="mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org">ChineseGP@icann.org</a><br>
Subject: [ChineseGP] Memo of CGP Fortnightly Meeting 7th August<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Dear Hanchuan and Colleagues<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Thank you for attending the meeting.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Here are some tasks we need to do before the next fortnightly meeting:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> 1) Improve the proposal, specify the language, repertoire and etc. (I will send out a updated document next week)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> 2) Provide some coordination examples on variants mapping to Japan and Korea community, to help all have a better understanding of coordination principles.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> 3) Select Kenny and other representatives to KGP meeting next Tuesday<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Please feel free to let me know if there is anything I forget to mention.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Wang Wei<o:p></o:p></p>
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