<div dir="ltr">Dear Asmus,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for your feedback, please see my comments below</div><div><br></div><div>Kenny Huang<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><span class=""><br>
</span><big><font color="#1144ff">Dear Wang Wei,<br>
<br>
the way variants are defined for the integrated root zone LGR
matches the second understanding - they are what you call
"tightly coupled" in your document and it is not possible to
have the und-Jpan LGR treat them as independent while the
und-Hani LGR treats them as variants.</font></big></div></blockquote>The presented sample table complies with the principles <br>(1)same variant mappings amount CJK (2)variant types (allocatable/block) can be different.<br>in the case, und-Jpan treats them as "block variants" while und-Hani treats <br>them with (allocatable/block) variants. <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><br>
<br>
<p style="margin-left:.25in"><span><span>2)<span>
</span></span></span>Opposite to the case 1, the
other understanding
is that “Variant mappings” is a tight coupled relationship which
applies in all
LGRs, and “Variant Type” must be ”allocatable” or “blocked”,
illustrated by the
following example:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.25in"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<table style="margin-left:21.05pt;border-collapse:collapse;border:none" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="1">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style="width:85.3pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="114">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Code Point<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
</td>
<td style="width:106.85pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="142">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Allocatable Variant<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
</td>
<td style="width:106.6pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="142">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Blocked Variant<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
</td>
<td style="width:89.6pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="119">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Tag<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="width:85.3pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#ffe599;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="114">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">一</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+4E00)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:106.85pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#ffe599;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="142">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">--<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:106.6pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#ffe599;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="142">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">壱</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+58F1)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">壹</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+58F9)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">弌</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+5F0C) <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:89.6pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#ffe599;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="119">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">und-hani<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="width:85.3pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#ffe599;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="114">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">壹</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+58F9)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:106.85pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#ffe599;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="142">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">--<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:106.6pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#ffe599;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="142">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">一</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+4E00) <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">壱</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+58F1)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">弌</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+5F0C) <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:89.6pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#ffe599;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="119">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">und-hani<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="width:85.3pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#ffe599;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="114">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">弌</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+5F0C)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:106.85pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#ffe599;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="142">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">一</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt">(U+4E00) <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:106.6pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#ffe599;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="142">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">壹</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+58F9)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">壱</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+58F1) <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:89.6pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#ffe599;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="119">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">und-hani<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="width:85.3pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#ffe599;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="114">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">壱</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+58F1)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:106.85pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#ffe599;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="142">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">壹</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt">(U+58F9)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:106.6pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#ffe599;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="142">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">一</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+4E00)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">弌</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+5F0C)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:89.6pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#ffe599;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="119">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">und-hani<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="width:85.3pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#c5e0b3;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="114">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">一</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+4E00)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:106.85pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#c5e0b3;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="142">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">--<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:106.6pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#c5e0b3;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="142">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">壹</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+58F9)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">弌</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+5F0C)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">壱</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+58F1)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:89.6pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#c5e0b3;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="119">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">und-Jpan<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="width:85.3pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#c5e0b3;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="114">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">壹</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+58F9)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:106.85pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#c5e0b3;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="142">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">--<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:106.6pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#c5e0b3;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="142">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">一</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+4E00)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">弌</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+5F0C)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">壱</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+58F1)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:89.6pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#c5e0b3;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="119">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">und-jpan<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="width:85.3pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#c5e0b3;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="114">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">弌</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+5F0C)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:106.85pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#c5e0b3;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="142">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">--<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:106.6pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#c5e0b3;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="142">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">一</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+4E00)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">壹</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+58F9)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">壱</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+58F1)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:89.6pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#c5e0b3;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="119">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">und-jpan<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="width:85.3pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#c5e0b3;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="114">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">壱</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+58F1)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:106.85pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#c5e0b3;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="142">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">--<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:106.6pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#c5e0b3;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="142">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">一</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+4E00)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">壹</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+58F9)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">弌</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> (U+5F0C)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
<td style="width:89.6pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:#c5e0b3;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="119">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">und-jpan<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.25in"><span> </span>In this table, no matter what
language tag was
set, for any given code point in a variant mapping cluster, its
variants must
be configured to either “allocatable” or “blocked”, its variants
cannot stay as
an INDEPENDENT code point, regardless of the fact that in Japanese
language
environment<a name="1495507b71ed50ce__GoBack"></a> they are treated as different
OLD form and
NEW form.<br></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>All variants under 2nd column and 3rd column has been assigned variant type (allocatable/block).</div><div>The default type of the 1st column is "allocatable". </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.25in">
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.25in"><br>
<big><big><font color="#1144ff">It means that if anybody registers
the label <span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">.一</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN"></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">一 </span>for
the first time under the und-Jpan tag, then nobody can
register the label <span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN"></span></font></big></big><big><big><font color="#1144ff"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">弌</span></span></font></big></big><big><big><font color="#1144ff"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">弌</span></span></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN"> </span>under
any tag. If they had first registered the label <span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">.</span></font></big></big><big><big><font color="#1144ff"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">弌</span></span></font></big></big><big><big><font color="#1144ff"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">弌</span></span></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN"> </span>under
the und-Hani tag, then the same applicant can request to
register the label<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN"> .</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN"></span></font></big></big><big><big><font color="#1144ff"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">一</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"></span></span></font></big></big><big><big><font color="#1144ff"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN"><span style="font-size:9.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN">一</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"></span></span></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN"> </span>as
well (but whether that request is granted, and how, is
outside the scope of the LGR).</font></big><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun" lang="ZH-CN"><br>
</span></big></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.25in"><br></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, this is the goal of the proposal based on informed constraints. </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.25in">
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.25in">Moreover, only the
allocatable
code points can be used to generate valid whole label package, and
this whole
label package will go (be allocated) to the SAME applicant, which
means, the
co-existence of old form label registrant and new form label
registrant will
not happen at Root level.<br></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, only the allocatable code points (1st column) can be used to generate valid whole label package (2nd/3rd column).</div><div>(ref: RFC3743)</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.25in">
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.25in"><b><br>
</b></p>
<big><font color="#1144ff">if it is felt desirable to allow somebody
to register the old form and the new form under the "und-Jpan"
tag, then the only way to do that is to declare these as
"allocatable" variants under the und-Jpan tag.</font></big> </div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><br>
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<big><font color="#1144ff">Because the root is a shared resource,
variants must be tightly coupled.</font></big></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>yes, if the presented sample table is considered "tightly coupled". Otherwise it has to be</div><div>clearly defined somewhere.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Kenny Huang</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div>