[council] NomCom appointee skill sets
Carlos Raúl G.
crg at isoc-cr.org
Thu May 7 15:06:57 UTC 2015
In general terms the regulator in Costa Rica had the direct responsibility over privacy of telecommunications, but the fact is that a myriad of other laws and entities had to do with data protection and privacy. Do I maybe had flunked the test (but nobody asked about that in the NomCom interviews)
;)
Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
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> El may 7, 2015, a las 3:44, Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson at afilias.info> escribió:
>
>
> Thanks Marika for flagging this.
>
> I think it will be useful to submit updated criteria to the Nom Com.
> However, on reviewing this, I see that the:
>
> "Knowledge of privacy and data protection laws and implications"
>
> Was added to the baseline criteria.
>
> Now, given that the baseline criteria are (by definition) a minimum set of
> criteria that must be met by ALL candidates and can then be added to by the
> optional "variable" criteria, I think this addition is in the incorrect
> location. Would all of our current (Thomas, Dan & Carlos) very competent
> Nom-Com appointees have met this test?
>
> Knowledge of privacy and data protection laws and implications may well be
> relevant and important but the other baseline criteria are general
> (relevant) skills together with a basic knowledge of the DNS.
> To me, this is a specialist area and to make a specialist areas such as
> "Knowledge of privacy and data protection laws and implications" part of the
> minimum acceptable criteria for candidates would be an error in my opinion.
>
> Therefore, I suggest that we retain "Knowledge of privacy and data
> protection laws and implications" but simply move it to the list below i.e.
> Variable Criteria that are useful to the GNSO.
>
> With that change, I think we are good to go.
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amr Elsadr [mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org]
> Sent: 06 May 2015 11:54
> To: Marika Konings
> Cc: Reed, Daniel A; jrobinson at afilias.info; David Cake;
> council at gnso.icann.org
> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets
>
> Thanks Marika,
>
> No objections on my part.
>
> Amr
>
> On May 6, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
> wrote:
>
>> All, we've just realised that the revised Nom Com GNSO Candidate Criteria
> were not formally submitted back in December when the Council discussed
> these (see revised version attached). To correct this, we would like to
> propose to go ahead and submit these now as they may still help inform the
> NomCom's deliberations. If you have any objections, please share those with
> the list by Thursday 7 May at the latest.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Marika
>>
>> From: <Reed>, Daniel A <dan-reed at uiowa.edu>
>> Date: Monday 8 December 2014 20:30
>> To: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson at afilias.info>, 'David Cake'
>> <dave at difference.com.au>, "council at gnso.icann.org"
>> <council at gnso.icann.org>
>> Subject: RE: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets
>>
>> Here are the changes. (David, please make sure I captured them
>> appropriately.)
>>
>> From: Jonathan Robinson [mailto:jrobinson at afilias.info]
>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 4:47 AM
>> To: Reed, Daniel A; 'David Cake'; council at gnso.icann.org
>> Subject: RE: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets
>>
>> Thanks Dan,
>>
>> Please can you add them to your revised version and then, if there are no
> other additions / modifications, we can use that as an updated guide for the
> NomCom.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> From: Reed, Daniel A [mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu]
>> Sent: 06 December 2014 20:24
>> To: David Cake; council at gnso.icann.org
>> Subject: RE: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets
>>
>> All of these seem reasonable to me.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> From:owner-council at gnso.icann.org
>> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of David Cake
>> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 12:06 AM
>> To: council at gnso.icann.org
>> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets
>>
>> Going back to the very start of discussion:
>> - I would like to add privacy and data protection law to the 'knowledge of
> an experience with' list.
>> - perhaps we should consider adding 'experience with other Internet
>> governance fora' to the general Variable Criteria list
>>
>> and, while I don't have strong feelings about it, in the interests of not
> simply expanding the list without ever removing anything from it, does
> anyone feel a need to keep "Understanding of the special needs of financial
> services businesses" on the list of variable criteria?
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> On 6 Dec 2014, at 8:07 am, Reed, Daniel A <dan-reed at uiowa.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I think it looks quite good. I took the liberty of tightening the
> grammar in a few places and adding a couple of small points for
> consideration.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> Daniel A. Reed
>>> Vice President for Research and Economic Development Computational
>>> Science and Bioinformatics Chair Professor of Computer Science,
>>> Electrical and Computer Engineering, and Medicine University of Iowa
>>> <image001.gif>
>>> Skypeid: hpcdan
>>> Email: dan-reed at uiowa.edu
>>> Telephone: +1 319 335-2132
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Jonathan Robinson [mailto:jrobinson at afilias.info]
>>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:38 AM
>>> To: Reed, Daniel A; 'David Cake'; 'James M. Bladel';
>>> council at gnso.icann.org
>>> Subject: RE: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Taking you back to this thread since I have received a follow-up request
> on this.
>>> The points made were interesting but we may have got a little
> side-tracked, at least in so far as producing a practical outcome for the
> Nom Com.
>>>
>>> Therefore, I'd like to ask specifically if there is a willing volunteer
> to pick up the pen and undertake a revision of the existing document.
>>> The objective being to review and edit (if necessary) the existing
> document such that we can return it to the Nom Com.
>>>
>>> In my opinion, the existing document (re-attached for reference) is
> reasonable and may even be satisfactory.
>>> So, anyone available to review and propose and relevant edits such that
> we can turn this around and return it to the Nom Com?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> From: Reed, Daniel A [mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu]
>>> Sent: 03 November 2014 03:13
>>> To: David Cake; James M. Bladel; council at gnso.icann.org
>>> Subject: RE: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets
>>>
>>> Law is far too restrictive. Common sense and experience are far more
> important.
>>>
>>> From:owner-council at gnso.icann.org
>>> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of David Cake
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 8:09 PM
>>> To: James M. Bladel; council at gnso.icann.org
>>> Subject: Re: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets
>>>
>>> If we were to use this language for additions to the Baseline criteria. I
> agree with James that would be appropriate.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> On 3 Nov 2014, at 9:07 am, James M. Bladel <jbladel at godaddy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Colleagues:
>>>>
>>>> Apologies for jumping in to this thread so late. But it occurs to me
> that by using the word "law" we are significantly (and, IMO,
> inappropriately) limiting the potential pool of NomCom appointees to
> lawyers.
>>>>
>>>> Recommend that we replace each instance of "law" with broader terms,
> like "issues" or "concepts" or "topics."
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> J.
>>>> ____________
>>>> James Bladel
>>>> GoDaddy
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 9:15 AM, David Cake <dave at difference.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3 Nov 2014, at 7:00 am, Heather Forrest <Heather.Forrest at acu.edu.au>
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I read Brian's suggested addition of IP law to the skillset as
> motivated by the specification of certain relevant areas of the law but not
> others. If we articulate the skill set at a higher level of abstraction
> (knowledge of and experience in relation to law relevant to the DNS), would
> that satisfy all concerns?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not really. We would still be specifying a set of legal skills that we
> think would likely be useful to council deliberation, rather than a set of
> legal skills that we think would likely be useful to council deliberations
> AND that the council is unlikely to already have.
>>>>> To reiterate - my issue with having intellectual property law on the
> list isn't because I think intellectual property law isn't important (it
> clearly is), my issue is that any given council almost certainly has at
> least two experts in IP law, and I've don't think in the time I've been in
> iCANN there have been less than three on council.
>>>>> The more specific we are in our instructions to NomCom, the likely we
> are that NomCom will give us some of what we ask for.
>>>>> And NomCom does seem to pay attention to the list, though clearly
> reliant on who applies (for example, the prior list included both
> intergovernmental expertise and economics, and we got Carlos, an economist
> who has been in the GAC. Thanks, NomCom!).
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd have no particular objection to adding Brian's 'general
> comprehension of IP law' to the baseline criteria expected of all
> councillors - I presume all of us could explain what a trademark, copyright,
> and patent are if pressed, and most of us have significantly more knowledge
> than that - though it doesn't seem as important to me as the other baseline
> criteria, such as basic knowledge of DNS systems and industry structure. But
> the variable criteria are to 'fill gaps in the skill set of the Council'
> (quoting directly), and I don't think intellectual property law is a notable
> gap.
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heather
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From:
>>>>>> owner-council at gnso.icann.org[mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Edward Morris
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 1 November 2014 6:02 PM
>>>>>> To: council at gnso.icann.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [council] FW: NomCom appointee skill sets
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Susan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - At the end of the day consumer protection, insuring that the domain
> name system is safe and secure, should be one of our highest priorities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with you that consumer protection is a justifiable and proper
> rationale for the creation and extension of intellectual monopoly rights and
> has been deemed so in Anglo-American jurisprudence, at least, since the
> Bakers Marking Law of 1266. We may on occasion disagree with the structure
> and scope of such rights but I'm delighted there seems to be some practical
> agreement on the purpose of the rights themselves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -We could restructure the list
>>>>>>
>>>>>> International law which includes the following:
>>>>>> Data protection
>>>>>> Privacy
>>>>>> Consumer rights
>>>>>> Human rights
>>>>>> Competition law
>>>>>> Intellectual property law
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this is a fine and practical proposal that I support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks so much for your contribution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed
>>>
>>> <NomCom - GNSO Candidate Criteria--DAR.docx>
>>
>> <NomCom - GNSO Candidate Criteria--DARV2[1].docx>
>
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