[council] Voting Statements

[Paul McGrady (Policy)]

Thanks Volker.  I have a different memory of what was promised.  In any
event, Thomas said he would send us the letter indicating what I recall
being promised was done.  So, that will take care of the issue.  I don't
think you and I need to go down the rabbit hole of disagreeing over what was
promised if what was promised was done.  Thanks!

Best,
Paul



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From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On
Behalf Of Volker Greimann
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 11:21 AM
To: Paul McGrady (Policy); 'Thomas Rickert'; 'James M. Bladel'; 'Marika
Konings'; 'GNSO Council List'
Subject: Re: [council] Voting Statements


Hi Paul,

I may be mistaken but I do not think Thomas or anyone else gave any
guarantee of how the CCWG or the board would treat these comments. While the
GNSO council chose to attach them to its communication approving the
recommendations, any expectation of continued forwarding to the NTIA or
congress had no basis in the statements made to us.

In the end, all that matters is that the chartering organizations voted in
favor of the recommendations. Any statements attached to these votes were
forwarded to the next level, but beyond that, there were no guarantees.  The
statements are on record, and anyone interested will be able to find them.
That should be enough.

Best regards,

Volker Greimann

Am 18.03.2016 um 17:03 schrieb Paul McGrady (Policy):
> Thanks Thomas.  This is a bit less robust than advertised.  Can you 
> please do more for us to ensure that what was sent to NTIA (which 
> presumably reaches Congress) actually contained these statements?  I 
> don't think it is reasonable to assume that NTIA users of the CCWG 
> will automatically attach our voting statements to whatever they 
> communicate to Congress and others in Washington.  If we can't get 
> certainty on that, then I may need to go back to my constituency and 
> get permission to take a more direct route.  Thanks in advance for 
> your anticipated follow through on the promise that our statements would
be included in the package sent to the NTIA.
>
> Regards,
> Paul
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Rickert [mailto:thomas at rickert.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 11:51 AM
> To: James M. Bladel; Marika Konings; Paul McGrady; GNSO Council List
> (council at gnso.icann.org)
> Subject: Re: [council] Voting Statements
>
> Hi James,
> I can confirm that we have referenced to all papers form the 
> Chartering Organizations and the GNSO repsonse includes the IPC 
> statement, amongst others.
>
> While I have not seen (but it may just be me) reference to the 
> Chartering Organizations' letters in the Board submission to NTIA, I 
> should mention that NTIA representatives are on the CCWG list and have 
> therefore taken note of the Chartering Orgs statements.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Thomas
>
> Am 14.03.2016 um 20:57 schrieb James M. Bladel:
>> Thanks, Marika.
>>
>> If I¹m understanding your message, we sent all materials to 
>> CCWG-ACCT, and these were references in their submission to the 
>> Board...but we have no confirmation that the Board included these 
>> materials in their submission to NTIA.  Is this correct?
>>
>> If so, then perhaps we could raise this question with Thomas.  And I 
>> presume there is nothing to prevent us from submitting these directly 
>> to the folks at NTIA.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> J.
>>
>>
>> On 3/14/16, 11:00 , "owner-council at gnso.icann.org on behalf of Marika 
>> Konings" <owner-council at gnso.icann.org on behalf of 
>> marika.konings at icann.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Paul, for your information, please find attached the transmittal 
>>> message
>> >from the CCWG-Accountability to the ICANN Board, which includes a
>>> link to
>>> the message that James sent which included the transmittal letter 
>>> and attachments with statements as well as voting record. The 
>>> transmittal message from the ICANN Board to NTIA can be found here 
>>> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/accountability-cross-community/2016-Ma
>>> r
>>> ch/01
>>> 1
>>> 720.html. As far as I can tell, the ICANN Board transmittal does not 
>>> seem to include the details of the consideration by the different 
>>> chartering organisations, but I may have missed it as there are a 
>>> number of attachments that have been provided.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Marika
>>>
>>> On 14/03/16 09:00, "owner-council at gnso.icann.org on behalf of Paul 
>>> McGrady" <owner-council at gnso.icann.org on behalf of 
>>> policy at paulmcgrady.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> James,
>>>>
>>>> Can you confirm that, as promised, the CCWG-ACCT passed along the 
>>>> various voting statements to the Board and the Board, in turn, has 
>>>> passed them along to the NTIA?  These are an important part of the 
>>>> record and we were assured they would end up in the hands of the 
>>>> NTIA. Hopefully, that happened as advertised. Thanks for checking 
>>>> and getting back to the List with news.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone

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