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<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">18 November 2004 </font> </p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Proposed <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/agenda-gnso-05aug04.htm">agenda
and related documents</a><br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>List of attendees:</b><br>
Philip Sheppard - Commercial & Business users C.<br>
Marilyn Cade - Commercial & Business users C. <br>
Grant Forsyth - Commercial & Business users C<br>
Greg Ruth - ISCPC <br>
Antonio Harris - ISCPC<br>
Tony Holmes - ISCPC<br>
Thomas Keller- Registrars - absent - apologies - proxy to Ross Rader/Bruce Tonkin/Alick
Wilson <br>
Ross Rader - Registrars <br>
Bruce Tonkin - Registrars <br>
Ken Stubbs - gTLD registries <br>
Philip Colebrook - gTLD registries<br>
Cary Karp - gTLD registries <br>
Lucy Nichols - Intellectual Property Interests C <br>
Niklas Lagergren - Intellectual Property Interests C <br>
Kiyoshi Tsuru - Intellectual Property Interests C. - absent - apologies - proxy
to Lucy Nichols<br>
Jisuk Woo - Non Commercial users C. - absent - proxy to Marc Schneiders <br>
Marc Schneiders - Non Commercial users C.<br>
Carlos Afonso - Non Commercial users C. - absent - apologies - proxy to Marc
Schneiders<br>
Alick Wilson - absent - apologies - proxy to Amadeu Abril l Abril/Demi Getschko/Bruce
Tonkin(directed vote for chair)<br>
Demi Getschko- absent - apologies - proxy to Amadeu Abril l Abril<br>
Amadeu Abril I Abril </font></p>
<p> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">15 Council Members<br>
</font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
Paul Verhoef - Vice President, Policy Development Support<br>
John Jeffrey - ICANN General Counsel<br>
Kurt Pritz - Vice President, Business Operations<br>
Barbara Roseman - ICANN Staff Manager<br>
<br>
Thomas Roessler - acting ALAC Liaison</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Christopher Wilkinson - GAC Secretary<br>
Suzanne Sene - GAC Liaison <br>
<br>
Michael Palage - ICANN Board (GNSO seat 14) - observer <br>
Patrick Sharry - External Consultant engaged for GNSO Review<br>
<br>
Glen de Saint Géry - GNSO Secretariat<br>
<br>
</font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="http://gnso-audio.icann.org/GNSO-Council-20041118.mp3">MP3
Recording</a><br>
Quorum present at 20:05<br>
<br>
<b>Bruce Tonkin</b> and <b>Philip Sheppard</b> chaired this teleconference.
<br>
<br>
<b>Item 1: <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/agenda-gnso-18nov04.htm">Approval
of the Agenda</a></b><br>
<br>
<br>
<b>Bruce Tonkin </b>proposed adding the WIPO ll discussion between Item 3 and
Item 4. <br>
<b>Marilyn Cade</b> proposed an update on the Staff support recruitment situation.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/agenda-gnso-18nov04.htm">Agenda approved</a>
<br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Item 2: Approval of the </b><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/minutes-gnso-21oct04.htm">Minutes
of 21 October 2004</a><b><br>
<br>
Ken Stubbs </b>seconded by <b>Marc Schneiders</b> moved the adoption of the
<a href="http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/minutes-gnso-21oct04.htm">Minutes of
21 October 2004</a><br>
<br>
The motion carried with two abstentions: Niklas Lagergren and Amadeu Abril I
Abril <br>
<br>
<b>Decision 1: The </b><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/minutes-gnso-21oct04.htm">Minutes
of 21 October 2004</a> <b>were adopted<br>
<br>
Item 3: Election of GNSO Council chair for 12 month term.<br>
Bruce Tonkin </b>handed the chair to<b> Philip Sheppard </b>as he was a candidate
for the GNSO Chair elections.<b> <br>
<br>
The GNSO Secretary </b>reported that there had been<b> one </b>nomination, <b>Bruce
Tonkin, </b>seconded by<b> Ross Rader </b>and<b> Demi Getschko. <br>
Philip Sheppard, </b>seconded by <b>Marilyn Cade and Ken Stubbs, </b>proposed
a motion of clarification:<b><br>
<br>
Whereas there had been a question raised as to whether or not the GNSO Chair
could have a renewed term of office .<br>
Whereas the question related to the old Rules of Procedure of the Names Council
and those rules no longer applied under the new <a href="http://www.icann.org/general/archive-bylaws/bylaws-19apr04.htm#X">ICANN
Bylaws</a>, <br>
the vote for the GNSO chair would be solely under the grounds of the current
<a href="http://www.icann.org/general/archive-bylaws/bylaws-19apr04.htm#X">ICANN
bylaws</a> as they apply to the GNSO Council.</b></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The motion carried unanimously with
a voice vote, quorum was confirmed before the vote was taken.</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Decision 2:<br>
<b>Whereas there had been a question raised as to whether or not the GNSO Chair
could have a renewed term of office .<br>
Whereas the question related to the old Rules of Procedure of the Names Council
and those rules no longer applied under the new <a href="http://www.icann.org/general/archive-bylaws/bylaws-19apr04.htm#X">ICANN
Bylaws</a>, <br>
the vote for the GNSO chair would be solely under the grounds of the current
<a href="http://www.icann.org/general/archive-bylaws/bylaws-19apr04.htm#X">ICANN
bylaws</a> as they apply to the GNSO Council.</b> <br>
<br>
<b>Philip Sheppard</b> proceeded with a nominated vote:</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Yes, for Bruce Tonkin as GNSO
Chair for the term of one year, until 18 November 2005, no or abstain.<br>
</b> </font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">All members present with proxies
voted yes, one abstention, Bruce Tonkin.<br>
The vote was confirmed.<br>
<b><br>
Decision 3: Bruce Tonkin is elected GNSO Council chair for one year, November
18 , 2004 to November 18, 2005. <br>
<br>
Philip Sheppard, </b>on behalf of the GNSO Council congratulated <b>Bruce Tonkin
</b> and handed the chair back to him.<br>
<br>
<b>Bruce Tonkin</b> proposed a discussion on the WIPO ll<b> </b>issue.<b><br>
Lucy Nichols </b>requested that prior to the Board receiving ICANN Staff's WIPO
ll recommendation, the GNSO Council be informed of the substance.<br>
The Intellectual Property Constituency's primary concern was that the ICANN
Staff and President would be making a recommendation regarding WIPO II and that
the Board could make a decision based upon that recommendation prior to the
GNSO Council's knowledge and discussion of the recommendation. </font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>John Jeffrey</b> and <b>Paul Verhoef</b>
stated that the<b> </b>WIPO staff had provided a commentary on the work of the
WIPO-II committee which would be published for comment on the ICANN website.
<b><br>
<br>
Bruce Tonkin</b> encouraged ICANN to give the Council adequate prior notice
so that there would be an opportunity to comment on the<b> </b> recommendation
before going to the ICANN Board, particularly given that there was no consensus
from the Council, and that the issue was related to gTLDs. <b><br>
</b><b><br>
Item 4:</b> <a href="http://www.icann.org/tlds/gtld-initialreport-registryapproval.htm">Draft
Initial Report</a> on procedure for use by ICANN in considering requests for
consent and related contractual amendments to allow changes in the architecture
or operation of a gTLD registry. <br>
<b>Kurt Pritz</b> reported that the document had been reviewed by the ICANN
President and Senior Staff and that concerns hovered around ICANN's ability
to provide timely service for registry requests. The flow chart was compared
with 18/20 case studies of registry requests for changes over the past year
and the vast majority of them fell into a straight forward category which did
not require all the steps set out in the flow charts. The document is being
revised so as to take into account simple and more complex cases and will be
available before the Cape Town meetings.<br>
<br>
<b>Update on Process for appointing staff</b><br>
<b>Paul Verhoef </b>reported that 2 short lists had been established for the
two GNSO related positions and interviews were taking place with the aim of
engaging shortly the successful candidate for the policy support position soon
while the senior role would likely be filled at the beginning of 2005.<br>
<br>
<b>Item 5: Update on process for review of GNSO Council Item</b> <br>
Patrick Sharry, a Master of Science in Decision Sciences from the London School
of Economics, Master of Education in mathematics education, a Graduate Diploma
of Teaching and a Bachelor of Arts comes from a teaching background and has
worked with ICANN over the last 12 months. Currently he is undertaking the GNSO
review process, interviews have been conducted and the draft report is expected
to be complete by mid week, 24 November 2004.<br>
<br>
<b>Item 6: <a href="http://www.icann.org/strategic-plan/strategic-plan-16nov04.pdf">ICANN
strategic plan</a> <br>
</b></font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Bruce Tonkin suggested
that the <a href="http://www.icann.org/strategic-plan/strategic-plan-16nov04.pdf">Strategic
Plan</a> should be an agenda item for the GNSO Council committee discussion
in Cape Town. <br>
<br>
<b>Item 7: Update on WHOIS</b> <br>
<b>Marilyn Cade</b> reporting for the Whois combined task force 1 and 2, said
that there would be draft recommendations to put forward at the GNSO public
forum relating to a draft procedure for conflicts, step by step, and Conspicuous
notice, while tiered access was at a developmental and exploratory stage and
work was progressing on identifying expert categories and possible experts to
address the issue. The task force was also working on questions which could
be addressed by the public to be included in the report as guided comments.
<br>
<b>Barbara Roseman</b> reported that Whois task force 3 intended to have a physical
meeting in Cape Town.<br>
Challenges revolved around the ways in which the Intellectual Property Constituency
and other Constituencies saw the usefulness of data accuracy and the Registrars
application of a cost benefit ratio for taking on additional burdens of verifying
accuracy. There appeared to be no disagreement about the actual issues but about
who would bear the costs.</font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
<b>Thomas Roessle</b>r commented that there appeared to be no consensus on whether
to optimize for increasing data quality on large scale or to optimize for going
after a small number of bad actors. Sanctions tied to inaccurate data if there
were few cases could be harsher than sanctions applied on a large scale. Care
should be exercised in sanctions as they could destabilize legitimate domain
names on a large scale.<br>
<br>
<b>Bruce Tonkin</b> suggested that the task forces meet on Wednesday with the
whole GNSO Council to get additional perspectives and<b> Ken Stubbs </b>suggested
that <b>Barbara Roseman</b> prepare a summary of the fundamental issues involved
in task force 3.<br>
<br>
<br>
<b> Item 8: Update on planning for ICANN meeting in Cape Town</b> <br>
Suggestions for discussion were as follows:</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Tuesday 30 November 2004, 2:00
pm to 4:00 pm<br>
</b></font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
GNSO Council external review<br>
</font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">GNSO Council self-review<br>
ICANN Strategic plan<br>
Priority policy issues for 2005<br>
<br>
<b>Wednesday 1 December 2004</b> <b>all day</b><br>
<br>
10:30 to 12:30 Whois <br>
GAC working group /GNSO Council and task force members lunch</font><br>
<font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">4:00 to 6:00 Whois </font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Friday 3 December 2004 8:30 to
10:30 Public Forum</b></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Whois task force recommendations<br>
Procedure for use by ICANN in considering requests for consent and related contractual
amendments to allow changes in the architecture or operation of a gTLD registry<br>
Summary of workshop solutions to the contention for domain names made available
by a gTLD registry</font><br>
<font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">GNSO Council review<br>
Open microphone for the community to raise issues the GNSO should examine</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>
</b></font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Bruce Tonkin</b> <b>declared
the GNSO meeting closed and thanked everybody for participating.<br>
The meeting ended: 20:15 UTC.</b></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Next GNSO Council meeting
will be held on Friday 3 December 2004 at 10:30 local time, 8:30 UTC</b>
<b>in Auditorium 1 in the Cape Town International Convention Center </b><br>
see: <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/">Calendar</a></font><br>
</li>
</ul>
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