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<font face="Arial"><b>I</b><b> am becoming a firm believer in the
concept of a "drop dead" date for PDP's. <br>
<br>
I believe that we need to insure against "perpetuity" by providing in
the process a "reasonable" time period <br>
for completion.. If the time period is not met then that specific PDP
would expire and an entirely new PDP would have to be initiated.<br>
<br>
I do not think it is a good idea to allow for council votes for "time
extensions" for a specific PDP as this <br>
would circumvent the concept of a "timely " process..<br>
<br>
your thoughts ?<br>
<br>
<br>
Ken Stubbs</b><br>
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Marilyn Cade wrote:
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type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Tom, my thinking is somewhat aligned with yours, but with some slight
variations, but I think that this is very worthwhile to develop as a "straw
proposal". As I used to manage policy development, and it involved both
internal and external policy, there were timelines "we" could control, and
some we could not -- e.g. when a policy was going to morph into a public
policy issue, such as "data retention", where governments became involved.
However, still, there were stages that were within control that could be
defined and time frames established and adhered to.
Thanks for your example. Helpful.
Marilyn
-----Original Message-----
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>] On
Behalf Of Thomas Keller
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:52 AM
To: Ross Rader
Cc: Mawaki Chango; Council GNSO
Subject: Re: [council] Draft Call for papers, new gTLD PDP
Ross,
I'm very sympathetic of the idea of moving the PDP out to a seperate
document which can be amended more easily as well as I'm sympathethic
of the thought of keeping the PDP as narrow in purpose as possible.
Having said the latter I have to note that if we start to really focus
the PDP on policy making only we need to deal with the information
gathering and understanding part in a different manner. A manner which
does not loose the benefit of the offical character of a formal PDP
(it is my experience that a issue only gets "real" attention if there
is a decision made at the end) but with more freedom for the council
to define timelines for the research part for each issue independently.
This could be done by a more project based approach with an PDP at
its end. Let me give you a short example:
1. The council recognises that IDNs are an important issue
2. The council officially announces a timeline and events to take place in
this time for research and "understanding" the IDN issue.
3. 2. can be repeated if needed
4. The staff manager produces an issues report on IDNs
5. The PDP is invoked
6. The PDP must be finished in time with an result
I guess the main sense of the last point is to have an defined end point
for each discussion. To be able to reach a result the TOR of the PDP
must be very minimal and defined very precisely. It would therefore be
very likely that we and up with more than one PDP for each issue.
Thats my 2 cents worth on this.
Best,
tom
Am 03.01.2006 schrieb Ross Rader:
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<pre wrap="">Mawaki Chango wrote:
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<pre wrap="">OK, now that this is clarified and we seem to agree that we
need all those processes, the next question I'm attempted
to ask is how do we do that, to "redefine" how we should
look at the PDP?
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<pre wrap="">My recommendation is two-fold. First, the amendment to the bylaws
should be to move the GNSO PDP to a separate document. This would allow
us to modify it in the future without having to amend ICANN's bylaws.
The amendment should be constructed so that a majority of the board of
directors would have to vote in favor of the amendment (as opposed to
the 2/3s required now). Second, we should only be looking to modify the
timelines in the PDP right now. There might be additional changes
required in the future to streamline or otherwise make the process more
efficient, but my preference would be to avoid a wholesale
reconstruction of the PDP - we have work that we need to undertake
immediately that would benefit from having clarified timelines. Let's
make sure that we stay focused on the practical goal of getting better
at what we do.
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<pre wrap="">I have another question, Ross. What do you mean by "our
getting our technology acts together process"? As
enumerated in your ealier email, I suspect this is
something the GNSO Council might be doing as well (maybe as
part of the sausage-like PDP), so I guess I need to be able
to identify what piece is this one, thanks.
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<pre wrap="">I was referring to instances where the technical environment wasn't
quite ready for the policy work going on in the GNSO and vice versa,
where the policy environment wasn't ready for new technical
developments being implemented. For me, this comes down to making sure
that we are appropriately informed regarding the capabilities of
differing technologies (and often, identifying areas where new
technology might be required) prior to conducting a PDP. For instance,
the GNSO has very little understanding of the policy implications and
new policy requirements presented by the IRIS protocol - or whether or
not the protocol is even appropriate for the applications that some
would like to embed in ICANN policy. In a perfect world, we would have
a clear understanding of these implications before we conducted a PDP.
In this world, we need to make sure that this lack of understanding
doesn't stand in the way of the PDP and that we rise to a proper level
of understanding of the relevant issues in a timely manner.
Regards,
-ross
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Gruss,
tom
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