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Hi,<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>We have a discussion of email lists in item 7. I was assuming that we could discuss this under that item if that is ok with you.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: 16px; ">Item 7: Establishment of a general GNSO discussion list, similar to the <br>ones for NANOG and IETF. (15)</span></blockquote></blockquote></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>As I understand it the questions involved in this topic include:</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>- Do we want to start some list(s) for discussion of GNSO issues</div><div>- Do we need separate lists for separate topics or is one list enough</div><div> - if so do we need an IDN list</div><div> - Any others?</div><div>- Are these open lists or restricted somehow?</div><div>- what sort of regime do we use to control/moderate/monitor the lists?</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br><div><div>On 20 nov 2007, at 10.16, Greg Ruth wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Avri,</div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> Sorry for the late reply. I would like to add to AOB, if time permits, a discussion of possibly creating an email list for IDN issues. I talk with Olaf about this and he said staff would be happy to set up a list *if* so directed by the Council.<br></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Greg<br></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">----- Original Message ----<br>From: "<a href="mailto:GNSO.SECRETARIAT@GNSO.ICANN.ORG">GNSO.SECRETARIAT@GNSO.ICANN.ORG</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org">gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>To: Council GNSO <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 4:08:58 PM<br>Subject: [council] Updated GNSO Council agenda 2O November 2007<br><br><br>Dear Council Members,<br><br>Please find the updated agenda for the call tomorrow:<br><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/agenda-20nov07.shtml" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/agenda-20nov07.shtml</a><br><br>The updates are as follows:<br>Item 3: Intergovernmental Organization Dispute Resolution Process<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>(IGO-DRP) vote (15)<br>Vote on PDP is pending from 31 Oct. as we did not take a vote to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>specifically delay the PDP vote until after the ad-hoc group being led<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>by the IPC reported back.<br><br>Item 4: Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy PDP vote (15)<br>4a - Vote to initiate PDP pending from 31 Oct<br>4b - Contingent vote of forming a TF for the PDP pending from 31 Oct.<br><br>5a. Discussion of Board Motion of Interim solution WG<br>see:<br>Adopted Board Resolutions Los Angeles<br><a href="http://www.icann.org/minutes/resolutions-02nov07.htm#_Toc55609363" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/minutes/resolutions-02nov07.htm#_Toc55609363</a><br>Update on Internationalized Domain Names<br>Charter IDNC Working Group<br><a href="http://www.ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/idnc-charter.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/idnc-charter.htm</a><br><br>Item 8: Letter on behalf of Hagen Hultzsch re job description for open<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>GNSO Council position in 2008<br><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg04100.html" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg04100.html</a><br><br>Decision on how to proceed<br><br>Item 10: AOB<br>10 a. Discussion of chair and vice-chair election process<br><br><br>Agenda<br><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/agenda-20nov07.shtml" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/agenda-20nov07.shtml</a><br>Agenda approval<br><br>Item 0: Roll call of Council members<br><br>Item 1: Update any statements of interest<br><br>Item 2: Approval of the draft GNSO Council minutes of 11 October 2007 -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>(agenda, Items 0 -2 15 mins)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg04014.html" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg04014.html</a><br><br>Item 3: Intergovernmental Organization Dispute Resolution Process<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>(IGO-DRP) vote (15)<br><br>Vote on PDP is pending from 31 Oct. as we did not take a vote to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>specifically delay the PDP vote until after the ad-hoc group being led<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>by the IPC reported back.<br><br>Intergovernmental Organization Dispute Resolution Process (IGO-DRP)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>developed by staff:<br><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/gnso-igo-drp-report-v2-28sep07.pdf" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/gnso-igo-drp-report-v2-28sep07.pdf</a><br><br>Motion that failed in LA<br>Whereas, the Council has previously requested and received both the 15<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>June 2007 "GNSO Issues Report on Dispute Handling for IGO Names and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Abbreviations"<br>and the 28 September 2007 "Staff Report on Draft IGO Domain Name Dispute<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Resolution Procedure;"<br>and<br><br>Whereas, the Council believes that further work on the draft IGO Domain<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Name Dispute Resolution Procedure is appropriate before voting on<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>whether to initiate a policy development process on this issue; and<br><br>Whereas, the Intellectual Property Constituency is willing to lead a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>small ad hoc group to review and consider a proposed draft dispute<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>resolution procedure,<br><br>Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Council authorizes the creation<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>of a small ad hoc group of interested informed and representative<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>stakeholders and members of the GAC to review, consider and propose as<br>appropriate revisions to the Draft IGO Domain Name Dispute Resolution<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Procedure set forth in the Staff Report, and instructs the ad hoc group<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>to report to the Council with its recommendations not later than 15<br>February 2008.<br><br>Item 4: Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy PDP vote (15)<br><br>4a - Vote to initiate PDP pending from 31 Oct<br>4b - Contingent vote of forming a TF for the PDP pending from 31 Oct.<br><br>Meeting transcript from L.A.:<br><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/transcripts-gnso-council-transfers27oct07.pdf" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/transcripts-gnso-council-transfers27oct07.pdf</a><br><br>Issues Report:<br><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/issues/transfers/issues-report-transfer-denial-clarifications-19oct07.pdf" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/issues/transfers/issues-report-transfer-denial-clarifications-19oct07.pdf</a><br><br>In the second URL above, especially note Section 2.2.e, staff<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>recommendation for a PDP and Section 5, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE POLICY<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>OUTCOMES<br><br>Item 5: IDN ccTLD WG Discussion (15)<br><br>5a. Discussion of Board Motion of Interim solution WG<br>see:<br>Adopted Board Resolutions Los Angeles<br><a href="http://www.icann.org/minutes/resolutions-02nov07.htm#_Toc55609363" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/minutes/resolutions-02nov07.htm#_Toc55609363</a><br>Update on Internationalized Domain Names<br><br>Charter IDNC Working Group<br><a href="http://www.ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/idnc-charter.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/idnc-charter.htm</a><br><br>Draft GNSO comments revised in L.A:<br><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/ccnso-gac-issues-paper-idn-ccs-draft-gnso-comments-wg-rev-28oct07.pdf" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/ccnso-gac-issues-paper-idn-ccs-draft-gnso-comments-wg-rev-28oct07.pdf</a><br><br>Item 6: GNSO response to BGC WG on GNSO Improvements (30)<br>Draft Report of the BGC on GNSO Improvements<br><a href="http://icann.org/topics/gnso-improvements/gnso-improvements-report-15oct07.pdf" target="_blank">http://icann.org/topics/gnso-improvements/gnso-improvements-report-15oct07.pdf</a><br><br>Item 7: Establishment of a general GNSO discussion list, similar to the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>ones for NANOG and IETF. (15)<br><br>Item 8: Letter on behalf of Hagen Hultzsch re job description for open<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>GNSO Council position in 2008<br><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg04100.html" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg04100.html</a><br><br>Decision on how to proceed<br><br>Item 9: Pending Work Item Review (10)<br><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/pending-action-list.pdf" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/pending-action-list.pdf</a><br><br>(Link to Pending Work Item Review is permanently displayed on page:<br><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>below 'Master Calendar')<br><br>Item 10: AOB<br>10 a. Discussion of chair and vice-chair election process<br><br>(13:00 Los Angeles, 16:00 Washington DC, 21:00 London, 22:00 Brussels,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>08:00 Melbourne, next day)<br>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Local time between October and March, Winter in the NORTHERN hemisphere<br>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Reference (Coordinated Universal Time) UTC 21:00<br>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>California, USA (PST) UTC-8-0DST 13:00<br>New York/Washington DC, USA (EST) UTC-5+0DST 16:00<br>Rio de Janeiro, Brazil UTC-2+1DST 19:00<br>Buenos Aires, Argentina UTC-3+0DST 18:00<br>London, United Kingdom (BST) UTC+0DST 21:00<br>Brussels, Belgium (CEST) UTC+1+0DST 22:00<br>Karlsruhe, Germany (CEST) UTC+1+0DST 22:00<br>Barcelona, Spain (CEST) UTC+1+0DST 22:00<br>Oslo, Norway (CEST) UTC+1+0DST 22:00<br>Amman, Jordan UTC+2+0DST 23:00<br>Phnom Penh, Cambodia UTC+7+0DST 04:00<br>Hong Kong, China UTC+8+0DST 05:00<br>Singapore, Singapore UTC+8+0DST 05:00<br>Melbourne, Australia (EST) UTC+10+1DST 08:00 (next day)<br>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>The DST starts/ends on last Sunday of March 2008, 2:00 or 3:00 local<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>time (with exceptions)<br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>For other places see<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/" target="_blank">http://www.timeanddate.com</a><br><br>Let me know if you have any questions.<br>Thank you.<br>kind regards.<br><br>Glen<br>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Glen de Saint Géry<br>GNSO Secretariat - ICANN<br>gnso.secretariat[at]<a href="http://gnso.icann.org/" target="_blank">gnso.icann.org</a><br><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org</a><br></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div></div><br><hr size="1">Be a better pen pal. 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