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Hi,<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I have attached a revised version that tries to take into account the comments made. I have also responded inline below. Changes are contained in brackets. </div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br><div><div><div>On 20 nov 2007, at 16.34, Alan Greenberg wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I support all of Chucks comments, although one conditionally.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">CG: I suggest that each year we should identify specific skills from the</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">above list that are of highest priority for us for the timeframe</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">involved.</div> </blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div></blockquote></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Makes sense. I have added some words to this effect. </div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>as for this year, which skill are most critical in this year's selection.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I have highlighted International legal knowledge, intergovernmental experience and economics/market analysis</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Although I support highlighting the skills that may be most needed, I think the overall statement is too highly weighted on "skills". Less well defined qualities such as perspective may be of value, and we should give the NomCom leeway in selecting people who can help the GNSO. As currently stated, having one of the listed of highlighted skills is mandatory for selection.</div></blockquote></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>I had already inserted a section on the role of the nomcom appointee. I have added some words on these intangible qualities.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"> {Appointees should be people who can help the GNSO council to perform its duties; sometimes this may involve filling gaps in the skill set, at other times it may involve addressing a diversity or other demographic balance or may involve bringing a necessary perspective into the council that is not already present. Generally an appointee needs to fulfill several of these needs at the same time.}</font></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Lastly, I would adjust the "at least 20 hours per month" to reflect 3 ICANN meetings and possible other face-to-face meetings. On a personal note, never having completed my speed-reading course, 20 hours is way low at times when we are hit with large documents to review.</div></blockquote></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>done.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">{Depending on work load, for example during the weeks before the 3 face to face meeting, this can sometimes escalate to as much as 20 hours per week or more. The commitment for the 3 face to face meetings generally run about 7 days with council members having sometimes extensive responsibilities on most days. For those involved in Task forces or Working Groups, there may occasionally be additional face to face interim meetings} </font></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Alan</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">At 20/11/2007 10:21 AM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> {Role of the Nomcom Appointee.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> As discussed above the majority of the councillors are</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> appointed by the constituencies and represent those</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> constituencies in the council.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Nomcom appointees, on the</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> other hand, are not the representatives of any specific</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> group, though they may choose to represent the interests of</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> groups that are not currently represented in council.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Most</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> importantly<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>nomcom appointees should be people chosen from</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> outside ICANN who bring a fresh perspective into the council</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> and who accept the responsibility to do their best to support</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> ICANN in its<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>mission and core values.}</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">CG: What is meant by "outside ICANN"?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>I think we should be more</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">specific here so that we do not eliminate candidates who have been</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">active in ICANN, a quality that seems desirable.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>I am not suggesting</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">that candidates must have been active in ICANN, but I am suggesting that</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">candidates who have been active not be eliminated.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I guess it should be more outside the GNSO. Though I do think that one</div><div>of the jobs of Nomcom is to bring in 'outsiders'. </div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I have toned down the sentence to say:</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">{Most importantly Nomcom appointees should be people chosen, often from outside the GNSO constituencies and sometime from outside ICANN, who bring a fresh perspective into the council and who accept the responsibility to do their best to support ICANN in its mission and core values.}</font></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> Additional GNSO criteria:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> During the Nom Com meeting with GNSO Council at the ICANN</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> meeting in Lisbon, the Council provided the following outline</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> of qualities the NomCom should consider in GNSO candidates:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> Baseline Criteria for anyone selected as a nomcom appointee:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> {* Demonstrated experience working effectively in</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> collaborative environments involving diverse interests.}</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> * ability to chair a multi-stakeholder group to reach consensus</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">CG: Although this is a desirable quality, I am not convinced that every</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Councilor must have chair qualities.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>It could be very useful to the</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Council to have certain areas of expertise (e.g., IDNs,</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Intergovernmental Knowledge) even if the person may not have chair</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">qualities.</div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>I have toned this down to say:</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"> Ability to chair {or otherwise assist} a multi-stakeholder group in reaching consensus</font></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Personally, I think this is important especially as we move to the WG model and as council members start sharing stewardship responsibility for these WGs.</div></div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> {Variable Criteria that are useful to the GNSO:</div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">...</div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> - statistics and survey analysis</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> - project management and document control processes</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">CG: I suggest that each year we should identify specific skills from the</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">above list that are of highest priority for us for the timeframe</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">involved.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> {Additionally consideration may be given to Nomcom appointees</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> who can help with the geographical or gender balance on the</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> council as needed.}</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">CG: I would suggest that we qualify this to say something like the</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">following: "Additionally consideration may be given to Nomcom appointees</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">who can help with the geographical or gender balance on the council as</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">needed, as long as other needed skill sets are also demonstrated.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(In</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">other words, a condidate should not be nominated solely based on</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">geographical or gener balance of the Council.)"</div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>I have inserted the following:</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#4a0f06" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #4a0f06">{Additionally consideration may be given to Nomcom appointees who can help with the geographical or gender balance on the council as needed, as long as other necessary attributes and skills are also present.}</font></div><div><br></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#4A0F06"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#4A0F06">a.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#4A0F06"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#4A0F06"><span></span></font></div></div></div></div></body></html>