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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Here a some of my thoughts in response to this letter as
well as some suggested action items that I think should be done in the next
few days.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>First of all, I compliment the ccNSO on a well articulated
letter with what seems to me to be a constructive tone. Second, I suggest
that Avri officially support the recommendation for a
joint ccNSO/GNSO meeting in New Delhi, an idea that I believe she has
already indicated support for. Third, I recommend that we use the time we
have between now and New Delhi to carefully prepare for the proposed joint
ccNSO/GNSO meeting in New Delhi. Regarding the latter:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>I believe that completion of the GNSO response to the ccNSO/GAC Issues
Paper on IDN ccTLDs is a key step. Ideally it would have been good to
accomplish that before the end of the ccNSO public comment period on their IDN
ccTLD PDP (25 January). Because that is not feasible before the New
Delhi meetings, I suggest that, before 25 January, Avri send a letter to
the ccNSO and to their comment site informing them that our response (as
requested by the Board) will not be completed until New Delhi and we
respectfully request that our input be considered in the PDP. [Note that we
would need to act on this before the end of this current week so we will have
to decide whether or not to do this via our list.]</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI>
<LI>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>I do not think that it will be effective to engage in discussion with
the ccNSO regarding the issues we are concerned about prior to the joint
meeting in New Delhi. In my opinion, the chances are too high that there
will be misunderstanding and even miscommunication until both Councils are
face to face and that can cause more harm to the success of the joint meeting
than good.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI>
<LI>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>As a means of getting our preparation for the joint meeting started, I
identify the following points from the ccNSO letter to the Board for which I
believe we need to prepare: 1) The ccNSO clearly believes that the issues we
raised will take much longer than 120 days; 2) they appear to assume that it
is possible to introduce fast tract IDN ccTLDs before any resolution of the
issues we raised; 3) they state that as far as the issues relate to IDN
ccTLDs, they should be the responsibility of the ccNSO; 4) they also believe
that they must be dealt with in a PDP. I provide my preliminary thinking
about each of these below.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI></UL>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2><U>1) The ccNSO clearly believes that the issues we raised
will take much longer than 120 days.</U></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<LI>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>The original intent of the 120 day target was to attempt to avoid any
further delays in the implementation of IDN TLDs (gTLDs or cc fast track
IDN TLDs).</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI>
<LI>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>I believe that the goal of avoiding further delays remains valid and if
the 120 day target is unrealistic, then it is important to
begin work on the issues we raised as soon as possible with the goal of
at least agreeing to some interim approach until full resolution of the issues
can be completed.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI></UL>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2><U>2) They appear to assume that it is possible to
introduce fast tract IDN ccTLDs before any resolution of the issues we
raised.</U></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<LI>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>I believe that this may be a fundamental difference of opinion between
the GNSO and ccNSO but not one that necessarily needs to be a show
stopper. I think it is less important for the two SO's to come to
agreement on the assumption than it is to jointly develop an interim approach
as suggested in the previous item.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI>
<LI>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>I don't think we should spend a lot of time trying to convince them
that a final policy for allocating new TLDs into GNSO and ccNSO name space has
to happen before any IDN TLDs are introduced, but instead we
should work together to come up with a way that our concerns
can be addressed in the short term. I Therefore, I recommend that we
focus our attention on coming up with some ways forward on this that satisfy
our needs with regard to TLD allocation and still allow the ccNSO to deal with
the bigger policy issues over a longer period of
time.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI></UL>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2><U>3) They state that as far as the issues relate to IDN
ccTLDs, they should be the responsibility of the ccNSO.</U></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<LI>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>This is a point where I believe there is gap in understanding between
the GNSO and ccNSO or at least there does not seem to be
an recognition of a key point we tried to make: allocation of new
TLDs into the DNS is an issue that affects both SO's and therefore must be
worked by both SO's.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI>
<LI>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>This is an area that I think deserves caution because I think it would
be counterproductive for us to give the impression that the GNSO wants to
determine policy for the ccNSO so we should make it clear from the outset that
that is not our intent.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI>
<LI>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>This is a place where an example might be helpful. Consider
the case of .berlin. Should that be a GNSO or a ccNSO. It appears
to me at a minimum that guidelines need to be in place before .berlin is
introduce that determine what SO has policy responsibility. And any such
guidelines need to be developed by both SO's because both SO's are
impacted.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI></UL>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2><U>4) They believe that the issues the GNSO
raised must be dealt with in a PDP.</U></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<LI>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>If this is the case, which PDP process should be used? the
GNSO PDP or the ccNSO PDP? It may not matter too much provided that the
PDP used allows for full participation by the other SO with regard to the TLD
allocation issue.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI>
<LI>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>At present, there is not a joint PDP process in the ICANN Bylaws; maybe
this is an idea for further development.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI>
<LI>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>The idea of a less formal joint working group was made to facilitate a
timely response to the issues. In my opinion, waiting two years for a
ccNSO PDP process doesn't work, at least not for the development of an interim
approach to the broader TLD allocation issues. This seems to be a key
area where the two SO's need to focus attention.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI>
<LI>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>In the meantime, I am confident that we can work together with the
ccNSO. From what I have observed so far, the ccNSO is heading in a
direction that is not far off from what we could support. In the draft
issues report that the IDNC is considering, one idea under consideration for
IDN ccTLD string selection is this: "<SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT
color=#000000>the string must be a meaningful representation of the name of
the Territory or an abbreviation of the name of the Territory in the relevant
script</FONT></SPAN>". Please note that this is not a final
position. But if it is adopted it provides some defined limitations in
terms of IDN ccTLDs and could possibly even be used in developing interim
guidelines for allocation of TLDs into the two policy name
spaces.o</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI></UL>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Finally, I have concerns about the following statement in
the next to last paragraph of the ccNSO letter to the Board: "<FONT face=Tahoma
size=3>During the process the delegation of new TLDs would need to be suspended
to ensure that TLDs are not created in circumstances that would be a breach of
the policy being developed.</FONT>" I think we need to get clarification
of this in the proposed joint meeting. Considering that the ccNSO PDP is
estimated to take at least two years, this could easily be a way of delaying IDN
gTLDs, depending on what it means. I am not suggesting that it was
intended that way but I definitely think we need to get clarity in that
regard.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>In conclusion, I am proposing the following action times,
the first two of which need to happen in the next four days (NLT 25
Jan.):</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Avri send a letter to Chris Dispain officially supporting the
recommendation for a joint ccNSO/GNSO meeting in New
Delhi.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI>
<LI>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Avri send a letter to the ccNSO and to their comment
site informing them that our response to the ccNSO/GAC Issues Paper on
IDN ccTLDs (as requested by the Board) will not be completed until New
Delhi and we respectfully request that our input be considered in the
PDP.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI>
<LI>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>We initiate a planning process for the joint meeting in New Delhi
ASAP.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI></OL>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>To facilitate moving forward on the above so that we can
meet the time constraints, please comment on the Council list right
away.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=562520715-21012008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Chuck</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Avri
Doria<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 21, 2008 6:30 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Council
GNSO<BR><B>Subject:</B> [council] Fwd: ccNSO response to GNSO
resolution<BR><B>Importance:</B> High<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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face=Helvetica color=#000000 size=3><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT
style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica size=3>21 January 2008 12:11:37
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