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color=#0000ff size=2>Recommendation 2 (confusingly similar) does not necessarily
relate to trademarks although that could be a subset. The detailed
discussion we included for this was taken from international law relating to
trademarks but the intent was to apply the requirement on broader basis, in
particularly for existing gTLDs that do not have any trade mark
rights.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=788175611-11022008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Chuck</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Robin
Gross<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 11, 2008 12:50 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Council
GNSO<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [council] Response to ccNSO/GAC Issues
report<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>The same issue was raised at my table by the board members. The
feeling was "if two countries are going to start a war over a domain name, that
is their problem. They must pick 1 name." I think there is merit to
this view. It was also mentioned that Chinese is a script that is
used by a large community in just about EVERY country in the world, so does this
mean every country gets a script in Chinese? In the US alone, there
are large language communities for probably 10 scripts, giving the US 10 scripts
under our rule. I do not believe this is what we intended.</DIV>
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<DIV>And a few other points were raised that need to be dealt with. In
particular, the recommendation that "strings must not be confusingly similar" is
misplaced. Only technical confusion is the type that should be dealt with
here, not general confusion. I agree. This recommendation really
does not make sense from a trademark viewpoint (although that is how it is
intended), since a domain name, by itself, does not cause confusion, but only
with relation to how the domain is used. We are going well beyond
technical stability and trying to regulate other things that are
outside ICANN's authority.</DIV>
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<DIV>Perhaps we should give more thought to our recommendations before we vote
on them. I found the feedback from the board to be enormously
useful and we should try to address their concerns before voting.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>Robin</DIV>
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<DIV>On Feb 10, 2008, at 7:39 PM, Norbert Klein wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I also agree with Avri's suggestion, where others
already consented.</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">At the table I was - and I later talking to people
from another table - there<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">was opposition to the "One IDNccTLD per one script
per one language<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">group": "their government should decide to choose
just one."</DIV>
<DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I was surprised about the lack of sensitivity on the
political/social/cultural<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">implications. I argued - as a example - saying that
it would be highly<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">destructive in the presently tense situation, if the
Malaysian government<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">would give preference to the Chinese over against the
Indian ethnic sections<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">of the society by allocating only one IDNccTLD, but
this was dismissed<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">as "not ICANN's problem."</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Norbert</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Subject: RE: [council] Response to ccNSO/GAC Issues
report</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Date: Monday, 11 February 2008</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">From: "Edmon Chung" <<A
href="mailto:edmon@dotasia.org">edmon@dotasia.org</A>></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">To: "'Council GNSO'" <<A
href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</A>></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Agreed.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Edmon</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">-----Original Message-----</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [<A
href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org</A>]
On</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Behalf Of Adrian Kinderis</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:11 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">To: Avri Doria; Council GNSO</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Subject: RE: [council] Response to ccNSO/GAC Issues
report</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">The same issue was raised at our table Avri.</DIV>
<DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I believe your suggested change would be
appropriate.</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Regards,</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Adrian Kinderis</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Agreed.</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Edmon</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [<A
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On</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Behalf Of Adrian Kinderis</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:11 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">To: Avri Doria; Council GNSO</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Subject: RE: [council] Response to ccNSO/GAC Issues
report</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">The same issue was raised at our table Avri.</DIV>
<DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I believe your suggested change would be
appropriate.</DIV>
<DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Regards,</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">On Behalf Of Avri Doria</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Sent: Monday, 11 February 2008 12:59 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">To: Council GNSO</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Subject: [council] Response to ccNSO/GAC Issues
report</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Hi,</DIV>
<DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">At my table this evening, we had a conversation
about Executive</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">summary point #5 - specifically the last phrase
"... without GNSO's</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">concurrence"</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">While explaning it this, I explained that it really
refered to the</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">need to have have resolved the issue as explained
in #2 and the ICANn</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">community had<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>achieved a common agreement of an
interim procedure.</DIV>
<DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I am wondering whether we might be to change it to
say: " without</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">prior community concurrence"</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">thanks</DIV>
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