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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=421384619-18042008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Sorry to sound like a broken record, but the more I think
about the issue, the more I am convinced that the best thing we could do as a
Council before initiating a PDP is to develop very specific list of
questions and form an expert panel that is tasked with trying to answer the
questions. The expert panel could be formed from volunteers from the SSAC,
the APWG, and constituencies that have expertise related to the use of fast
flux. Such a panel could be given a relatively short timeline, assuming
they can complete the work in that timeline. It is possible that, if the
right experts are included, they might be able to respond to the questions in a
month or two.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=421384619-18042008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Chuck</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Liz
Gasster<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 18, 2008 3:19 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Rosette,
Kristina; council@gnso.icann.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [council] RE: Fast Flux
Report - questions <BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Kristina and
all,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Following are responses
below from staff where we can. I believe some of your questions highlight
the need for further study (possibly in more areas than we’ve identified in the
report, as some of your questions suggest). <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Happy to try to answer
further where we can, if you have more questions. I just want to note
again too that given the short time frame to prepare the report, the breadth of
sources we were able to draw upon were necessarily limited. I really like
your idea about noting sources and including a bibliography when we prepare
issues reports in the future, and I’m going to add this as a suggestion in our
GNSO improvements process so that we capture this idea to consider in the
development of a new policy development process.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Liz<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Rosette, Kristina<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:00
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
council@gnso.icann.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
[council] Fast Flux Report - questions </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">All,</SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Here are some initial
questions/requests about the report. I will forward additional questions
soon.</SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Page 1: The report states that
staff "consulted other appropriate and relevant sources of information".
In the interest of transparency, I would appreciate having those sources be
identified. As a general note, it may be helpful to all readers of
the report if the issues reports included a bibliography or sources consulted
section.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">LG -- staff considered
the SAC Advisory (SAC 025) and I also consulted extensively with Lyman
Chapin. We referred to the email exchanges on the SSAC list during the
period of time in which the SSAC folks were discussing fast flux and
preparing SAC 025, the presentations and transcripts from the SSAC workshops in
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Los Angeles</st1:place></st1:City>
(<U><A href="http://losangeles2007.icann.org/node/78"><FONT color=navy><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy">http://losangeles2007.icann.org/node/78</SPAN></FONT></A></U>)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">and <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Delhi</st1:place></st1:City> (<A
href="http://delhi.icann.org/node/97"><FONT color=navy><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy">http://delhi.icann.org/node/97</SPAN></FONT></A>), and
informally with a few other sources.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Pages 6, 14: One
interpretation of the reference to "domains in ccTLDs are targeted as well" is
that there is no "lasting value" to developing gTLD policy regarding any issue
that occurs in both gTLDs and ccTLDs. Is this interpretation
intended?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">LG -- Chuck’s
comment was right. There could be a benefit to coordinating with the
ccNSO. Not making a judgment on “no lasting
value”.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Pages 6, 14: Similarly, one
interpretation of the reference to "static rules through a policy development
process might be quickly undermined by intrepid cybercriminals" is that there
can be "no lasting value" to developing gTLD policy regarding any issue that
results from or is associated with cybercriminals because they move more quickly
than the PDP and, as interpreted by one IPC member, "are smarter than we
are". Is this interpretation intended?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">LG – That is why we
mention the importance of developing best practices, which then can be enhanced
and upgraded over time to keep up better with new techniques developed to
undermine existing deterrent techniques. Perhaps a policy outcome might
point to the need to adopt rigorous best practices and refresh on an ongoing
basis. But my understanding on fast flux is that these best practices do
not necessarily exist today, so the question might be how to encourage their
development in a structured and focused way, as a necessary precursor to
deciding how to encourage or require their widespread adoption. Might the
GNSO Council take on a convening role here? Or encourage or direct in some
other way? In this context, the inference of concern about “lasting value”
of imposing a specific practice is intended. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Page 8: For how long and on
what scale has proxy redirection been used to maintain high availability and
spread the network load?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">LG – We need to study
this more. The key question I was raising is, “are there valid uses that
need to be considered, that could be undermined if certain deterrent steps were
imposed?” It is not clear from our cursory view how broadly this is used –
seems also unlikely that there would be need for such constant and frequent
fluxing in this context, but we couldn’t determine for sure either way.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Page 9: Did more than one
person describe evasion of "black holing" "anecdotally as a possible 'legitimate
use'" of fast flux? Any evidence or research to suggest that it actually
happens? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">LG </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-- This is anecdotal
and may only be one entity, another potential subject of further
study.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Page 10: How likely is that
fast flux hosting "could be significantly curtailed by changes in the way in
which DNS registries and registrars currently
operate"?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">LG – Would need to
study further.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Page 11: Is it technically
possible now for registries and registrars to act in two ways set forth in
report? Practically possible? If so, do they? If not, have
reasons for not doing so been provided and, if so, what are
they?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">LG – Would need to
study further.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(I
have not included a scope clarification question because I understand that it
has already bee posed.)</SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Many thanks.</SPAN></FONT>
<o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Kristina
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