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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks Chuck. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I appreciate the time taken to respond.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>For the record I wasn’t requesting any further examples, rather
pointing to my own (in using Verisign).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Adrian Kinderis</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>
Managing Director</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>AusRegistry Group Pty Ltd<br>
Level 8, 10 Queens Road<br>
Melbourne. Victoria Australia. 3004<br>
Ph: +61 3 9866 3710<br>
Fax: +61 3 9866 1970<br>
Email: <a href="mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com"
title="mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au"><span style='color:black'>adrian@ausregistry.com</span></a><br>
Web: <a href="http://www.ausregistryinternational.com/"><span style='color:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 18 April 2008 10:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Adrian Kinderis; Council GNSO<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Maher, David<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] RyC Confusingly Similar Statement<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Adrian,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Please accept my apologies for taking so long to respond to
this. Besides being spread really thin while I was on jury duty for three
weeks, I also needed to consult with RyC members to ensure that any response I
gave was consistent with constituency views. I did the latter yesterday
in our regular biweekly meeting.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>First of all it is important to emphasize that the main thrust of
the RyC statement regarding the 'confusingly similar' new gTLD recommendation
is that user confusion should be avoided. Also, it is critical to
recognize that the statement is a constituency statement, not a VeriSign
statement. I certainly participated in the development of the statement
but it was truly written and ultimately approved by the full
constituency. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Regarding 'confusing strings' (using the latest term used by ICANN
staff in their implementation work), if you read all of the
information in the New gTLD Recommendations submitted to the Board, it is
clear that confusion of strings could come from anyone of the three types
of similarity that you cited ('looks like', 'sounds like' or 'the same
as') and maybe other types as well. I think we have to be very
careful to over-generalize in that regard because each script is different and
each ASCII gTLD is different; there are many variables that come into
play. If it was as simple as establishing precise rules, we might not
even need a dispute process. The fundamental question that will have to be
asked and answered in each case is whether or not a string creates confusion,
regardless of what type of confusion is involved.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>The RyC is not taking a position that we should be automatically
granted all string variations of our gTLDs. To be honest, we would love
that, and if the community wants to go that route, the RyC will support it, but
we suspect that that is unrealistic. We accept the fact that we will have
to apply for any IDN versions that we want. And we also expect to be able
to challenge any applications for strings that we believe are confusing with
strings we already have. I firmly believe that this is fully
consistent with the New gTLD recommendations.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>May others apply for ASCII or IDN versions that are similar to
the gTLD strings we currently support or support in the future? Yes, but,
if we believe it creates confusion, they should anticipate a
dispute. At that point it will be up to the dispute panel to decide
whether there is string confusion based on whatever criteria is finally established
in that regard.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Regarding your request for examples, we gave at least one example
in our paper. I am going to leave it at that.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Chuck</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Adrian
Kinderis [mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Maher, David<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] RyC Confusingly Similar Statement</span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Chuck,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks for posting this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Just so I am clear.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>“RyC believes that a key means of avoiding this problem is
to allow all manifestations of a given top level domain to be managed by a
single entity. This simple solution will also address the second issue:
ensure that each TLD name always means the same thing.”<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Which one(s) of the following is therefore true in the further
explanation you (the RyC) have provided;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>a.</span><span
style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>No
one, other than Verisign, could have a TLD (ascii or IDN) that <i>looks like</i>
.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>b.</span><span
style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>No
one , other than Verisign, could have a TLD (ascii or IDN) that <i>sounds like</i>
.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>c.</span><span
style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>No
one, other than Versign, could have a TLD (ascii ot IDN) that <i>means the same
as</i> .com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think examples will help explain the RyC paper.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks and see you later today (?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Adrian Kinderis</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><br>
Managing Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>AusRegistry Group Pty Ltd<br>
Level 8, 10 Queens Road<br>
Melbourne. Victoria Australia. 3004<br>
Ph: +61 3 9866 3710<br>
Fax: +61 3 9866 1970<br>
Email: <a href="mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com"
title="mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au"><span style='color:black'>adrian@ausregistry.com</span></a><br>
Web: <a href="http://www.ausregistryinternational.com/"><span style='color:
black'>www.ausregistrygroup.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 10 April 2008 7:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Council GNSO<br>
<b>Cc:</b> David W. Maher<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [council] RyC Confusingly Similar Statement<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Century","serif"'>Here's
a statement developed by the RyC regarding New gTLD Recommendation 2,
hopefully providing some new thoughts in that regard.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Century","serif"'>Chuck</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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