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color=#0000ff size=2>It seems to me that it up to each of us as Constituency
representatives to make that decision and request delay. That is what we in the
RyC have been doing for years.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>You don't think that adding a month to many motions and
maybe more than one month is inefficient?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>Chuck</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Robin Gross [mailto:robin@ipjustice.org]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:48 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Gomes,
Chuck<BR><B>Cc:</B> philip.sheppard@aim.be;
council@gnso.icann.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [council] finalizing motions in
advance of voting on them<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>It isn't always clear what is a "material" change. What may be a
"material" change to one constituency may be "immaterial" to another.
And even the crafting of immaterial changes takes up public forum time.</DIV>
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<DIV>I don't think it paralizes us because it only means we have to put the
vote off to the next meeting if there will be changes to it in the days before
the vote. And actually it would give us an incentive to get our act
together sooner. I think the lack of confidence in the GNSO from
word-smithing on the fly far outweighs the inconvenience of putting off a vote
to the next meeting.</DIV>
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<DIV>Robin</DIV>
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<DIV>On Jun 26, 2008, at 4:32 AM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Couldn't this paralize us?<SPAN
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change where</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">we need to go back to our constituencies.</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Chuck<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">From: <A
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href="mailto:philip.sheppard@aim.be">philip.sheppard@aim.be</A></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:46 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">To: Robin Gross</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Cc: <A
href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</A> GNSO</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Subject: Re: [council] finalizing motions in
advance of voting on them</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I fully support this call</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I'd to request that whatever motions are up for
counsel vote are<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">finalized at least several days in advance of
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">them, meaning<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">no last minute amendments - friendly or
not.</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I'm concerned about the tendency to amend the
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">counsel meeting and we end up wasting GNSO
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">time crafting<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">language on the fly (and this does not instill
confidence in the<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">counsel from the community).</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Besides appearing silly, and more importantly,
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">do not give us a chance to discuss the motion
that will be voted on<SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">with our constituencies.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>It is important that we know
exactly what<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">will be voted on in advance so we can get key
feedback from our<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">constituencies.</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Robin</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">IP JUSTICE</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Robin Gross, Executive Director</DIV>
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<DIV>IP JUSTICE</DIV>
<DIV>Robin Gross, Executive Director</DIV>
<DIV>1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA</DIV>
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