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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=156141900-20112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Mike,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=156141900-20112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=156141900-20112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Please be careful about claiming that the GNSO Council
found that abusive registrations are within scope of policy development. A
vote to initiate a PDP has an extremely low threshold and there has been no
decision by the Council that domain name abuse is within scope. On another
level, it is not the Council's role to define what is within scope so your point
is somewhat inappropriate even if it was accurate.<BR></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=156141900-20112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>In my opinion, initiating a PDP on Domain Name Abuse would
have a similar result as we have seen in the Fast Flux PDP. I am sure you
read the comments of one BC rep and former chair of that WG. I personally
think he makes a strong case that we prematurely intiated a PDP for fast
flux. I believe the Fast Flux PDP WG has done some very good work so I do
not want to minimize that, but I believe we would have been more effective if we
tackled the problem more deliberately instead of rushing into a
PDP.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=156141900-20112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=156141900-20112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>We have limited resources and if we rush into a PDP
everytime there is a problem even though there may not be a clear policy issue
that could be worked, we are going to burn people out and have trouble getting
volunteers in the future. That won't result in good policy and it will
limit our abiltity to succeed on other policy development
efforts.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=156141900-20112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Chuck</DIV></FONT></SPAN><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Mike
Rodenbaugh<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:41 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
GNSO Council<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [council] Issues Report re Abuse Policies
-- request for clarification from Counsel<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks Liz. I
appreciate the attempt to clarify, but I am still not clear about what is in
and out of potential scope. With both the UDRP (cybersquatting) and fast
flux exploits, nobody would care whether the domain in question was
registered, if it were not used in a criminal and/or infringing (aka abusive)
manner. The ICANN Board (wrt the UDRP) and ICANN Staff and GNSO Council
(wrt fast flux exploits) have found that abusive registrations are within
scope of GNSO policy development, and there is further support for that in the
mission statement. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I don’t understand
the distinction that Staff seems to be trying to make now, nor how it impacts
the Council’s decision-making on next steps to address this Issues Report.
If any Councilors or Staff have ideas, I’d love to hear them. My
thought is we should launch a PDP to determine whether gTLD registries and
registrars should have a consistent set of minimum standards and processes to
deal with abusive registrations. Assuming so, what are those standards
and processes? The Afilias funnel request provides one possible way,
several other ideas have been floated in the Fast Flux WG, in ICM’s .xxx
proposal re “Rapid Takedown”, and elsewhere.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Policy development is
imperative to address the current volume of abusive registrations, and
especially with newTLDs coming online next year, and with the expected growth
in use of IDNs. Private and public law enforcement entities are already
overstressed to deal with the volume and intensity of abusive registration
problems, and the growth of the domain space will only increase that
stress. Businesses, individuals and non-profit entities cannot be
expected to continue footing the bill for so-called ‘defensive registrations’
in effort to protect their brands, and instead ICANN must develop
post-registration mechanisms to effectively deal with abusive
registrations. A solid set of minimum standards and processes, required
of all accredited registrars and gTLD registries, would be a good
start.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mike<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Liz Gasster<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:40
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> icann@rodenbaugh.com;
'GNSO Council'<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE:
[council] Issues Report re Abuse Policies -- request for clarification from
Counsel</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Calibri size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Mike and
all,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Calibri size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Calibri size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Thank you for your
inquiry. The sentences you asked about in the registration abuse issues
report should be read in the context of the preceding sentences in that
paragraph, which read as follows:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Calibri size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Calibri size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">"Note, section 4.2.3 of the
Registrar Accreditation Agreement between ICANN and accredited registrars
provides for the establishment of new and revised consensus policies
concerning the registration of domain names, including abuse in the
registration of names, but policies involving the use of a domain name
(unrelated to its registration) are outside the scope of policies that ICANN
could enforce on registries and/or registrars."<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Calibri size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Calibri size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">For your reference, RAA section
4.2.3 provides that ICANN may obligate registrars to implement new policies
concerning the "resolution of disputes concerning the registration of
Registered Names (as opposed to the use of such domain names), including where
the policies take into account use of the domain names
..."<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Calibri size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Calibri size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><<A
href="http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/ra-agreement-17may01.htm#4.2.3">http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/ra-agreement-17may01.htm#4.2.3</A>><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Calibri size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">In the case of fast flux we said
that some aspects of fast flux hosting are within scope because fast flux
involves the rapid update of nameserver registration records in gTLDs.
Rapid update of nameserver registration records specifically involves the
registration of names, which can be distinguished from a case where a name,
once registered, resolves to a site that contains infringing or otherwise
abusive content. While ICANN could change policy with regard to updates
of nameserver registration records, ICANN might not be able to impose any new
obligations on registrars concerning pure content/use
disputes.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Please let me know if you have
any further questions.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Thanks, Liz<FONT
color=#1f497d><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Mike Rodenbaugh<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:51
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> icann@rodenbaugh.com;
'GNSO Council'<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE:
[council] Issues Report re Abuse Policies -- request for clarification from
Counsel<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sorry, tired today,
re-sending to clarify that this is a request for clarification from ICANN
Counsel, not the GNSO Council. Thanks.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Mike Rodenbaugh<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:36
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'GNSO
Council'<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [council]
Issues Report re Abuse Policies -- request for clarification from
Council</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I refer to Sec. 7.1 of the Report,
which ends with these sentences:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The use of domain names may be taken into account when
establishing or changing registration policies. Thus, potential changes to
existing contractual provisions related to abuse in the registration of names
would be within scope of GNSO policy making. Consideration of new policies
related to the use of a domain name unrelated to its registration would not be
within scope.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Could ICANN Counsel please clarify
this language? Specifically, what could be “use of a domain name
unrelated to its registration”? If this means “any use of a domain name
after it is registered”, then how is that opinion consistent with prior
enactment of the UDRP, and Counsel’s opinion in the Issues Report re Fast Flux
Hosting (Mar. 31, 2008, p. 14):<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Times size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Times">General Counsel’s opinion is that
some aspects relating to the subject of fast flux hosting are within scope of
the <B><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BACKGROUND: #a0ffff; COLOR: black">ICANN</SPAN></FONT></B>
policy process and within the scope of the GNSO. As <B><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BACKGROUND: #ffff66; COLOR: black">fast
flux</SPAN></FONT></B> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Times size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Times">hosting activities concern gTLDs,
the issue is within the scope of the GNSO to
address.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This clarification
and/or further analysis might be very helpful for the Council in considering
the latest Issues Report in the coming weeks, before our next
meeting.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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